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To: TobagoJack who wrote (59431)	1/25/2005 9:09:03 PM
From: Taikun	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Jay, <US troops can be stationed in the middle of the desert, away from Iraqi population centers, leave the municipal securities to the Iraqis, and leaving the US troops free to carry out missions in Iran and Syria, and guard against the predictable in Saudi Arabia.> This is like the Captain of a sinking cruise ship spending his time in his stateroom trying to kill a mosquito as the entire ship and passengers disappears into the ocean. It is also called 'arranging deck chairs on the titanic'. In other words, irrelevant. D

To: TobagoJack who wrote (59431)	1/25/2005 9:54:45 PM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Jay - Re: Basing in Iraqi desert : I don't see the problem. Gitmo in Cuba is supplied remotely. Many bases in Greenland are supplied this way. Occaaasionally, a heavily escorted truck convoy brings in heavy items. Well outside the base, there will be wires and sensors and signs, beyond which will be a kill zone. It's real hard to sneak up in the desert. No cover or concealment. The US Army fought the Indian wars wit forts in hostile territories. Fought very successfully. I don't see this as being a problem - what do you see ?

To: TobagoJack who wrote (59431)	1/26/2005 1:39:09 AM
From: Taikun	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Maurel et Prom might be taken out...but PetroIndia isn't an ADR so what would shareholders get? He confirmed talk that IOC was in talks to buy French oil firm Maurel et Prom. !!!!!!!!! GOOD NEWS India seeks power in oil link-ups by Richard Orange January 23, 2005 6:00 PM (GMT) INDIA should combine its public-sector oil companies into a single force with power to secure the reliable overseas supplies needed by its growing economy, the subcontinent's oil minister Mani Shanker Aiyar has told The Business. The new company, dubbed PetroIndia, would be the seventh-highest ranked oil and gas company in the Fortune 500. At present, the external arm of state-run Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC) leads India's overseas hunt for oil. It has lost out to aggressive bids from China. Aiyar said in London last week: "Whatever funds they [the external arm] get are really an interest-free loan from ONGC and the scale of that cannot be anything to match what [Chinese oil giant] Sinopec is doing." A combined company could "collect huge sums of money from the market to deploy on the external stage". India's state oil sector is dominated by ONGC, Indian Oil Company (IOC), and petrol refiners and retailers Hindustan Petroleum and Bharat Petroleum. Aiyar returns to India to ask an advisory committee on synergy to come up with a structure that would allow state companies to link up abroad without destroying competition at home. He confirmed talk that IOC was in talks to buy French oil firm Maurel et Prom.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (59431)	1/26/2005 4:29:53 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Jay, Complimenting your summary of Stratfor's vision for future forward basing of U.S. imperial expeditionary forces in Iraq's hinterlands*, here's an article by Sy Hersh that is raising quite a kerfuffle Stateside: newyorker.com I'd be interested in your comments, should you chose to read the article. Thanks. :) Best, Ray *I'm wondering if all these proposed bases are located in proximity to Iraq's oil wells? I'd be really surprised if they weren't. ;')