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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (6846)1/27/2005 4:14:44 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
WWIII clouds are gathering....

Iran nears nuclear 'point of no return'

Ewen MacAskill, diplomatic editor
Thursday January 27, 2005
The Guardian


The Israeli defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, warned yesterday that Iran will reach "the point of no return" within the next 12 months in its covert attempt to secure a nuclear weapons capability.

Tehran denies pursuing a nuclear weapons programme.

Speaking in London before a meeting today with Tony Blair, Lieutenant General Mofaz said Iran was the main long-term threat to the world and stressed that it will not be permitted to build a nuclear bomb. "None of the western countries can live with Iran having a nuclear capability," he told reporters.

Gen Mofaz, a hawk in the Israeli cabinet, who has said in the past that Israel has operational plans in place for a strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, refused to rule out military action.

Mr Blair, speaking in the Commons yesterday, said the Iranian issue was serious. Asked by the former Labour minister, Michael Meacher, to give an "unequivocal and categorical assurance" that Britain would not take part in any attack on Iran, Mr Blair said: "I know of no such contemplation by the United States of America."

In an interview with the Financial Times yesterday, Mr Blair refused to rule out the option of using military force.

With the US bogged down in the Iraq conflict, opening another front in Iran would be risky. Iran's Shebab-3 rockets are theoretically capable of hitting Israel.

The Israeli and US rhetoric has grown more strident in the last week and could be aimed at pushing Britain, France and Germany into taking a tougher diplomatic approach towards Iran.

The US vice-president, Dick Cheney, said last week that Israel might launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, as it did against Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak in 1981.

Gen Mofaz indicated yesterday that he thought the US rather than Israel should do it: "It is the strongest power that can stop any nuclear power, especially in the hands of an extreme regime."

US officials have confirmed privately a report by the US reporter, Seymour Hersh, in the New Yorker, that US special forces have already been in Iran scouting out its nuclear facilities.

Gen Mofaz, who was born in Iran but left for Israel while a child, said: "Iran is very close to the point of no return, which means the enrichment of uranium, and we believe that the leadership of the US, together with the European countries, should stop as soon as possible this military nuclear programme in Iran."

He added that this point of no return would be reached "in less than a year" and that it would only be "a matter of years" after that that it would assemble the bomb .

The Israeli intelligence assessment, shared by the US and Britain, is that Iran could have a bomb by 2007.

The foreign secretary, Jack Straw, flew with his German and French counterparts to Tehran late in 2003 to broker a deal with Iran to suspend its enrichment programme. The deal broke down last year when the troika accused Iran of reneging on the deal. A new round of negotiations is under way and expected to drag on for at least a few months.

Like the US, which is equally sceptical, Israel is pushing for the issue to be referred to the United Nations for the imposition of sanctions and deep inspections by UN staff of Iran's nuclear facilities.

Gen Mofaz's comment about "point of no return" echoed a private briefing by Meir Dagan, the head of the Israeli overseas intelligence service, Mossad, to members of the Knesset on Monday. Mr Dagan said Mr Cheney's remark that Israel might make a pre-emptive strike was aimed at pressing Europe to adopt the tougher US approach towards Iran.

Britain, France and Germany have switched to a harder approach towards Iran. A confidential EU document leaked to Reuters and confirmed independently said the troika had told Iran it would be "unacceptable" for Tehran to keep its uranium enrichment programme, even if, as it claims, it is solely for civil purposes.

The commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard ground forces, Brigadier General Mohammad Ali Jafari, said yesterday: "Iran will retaliate against any stupid moves by Israel."

guardian.co.uk



To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (6846)2/4/2005 11:07:32 AM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 

The Tsunami of Penitence......................................
By Israel Shamir
Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:11 pm

Israel is a good place to watch the giant wave of gentile penitence, the Auschwitz Remembrance Day that lasts for a week. Sure, you can observe it around the globe like solar eclipse, this colossal Canossa: the entire world from Alaska to Antarctica stands still listening to the Jewish prayer and begs forgiveness. Chirac promised to remember the Jews France failed to save; he acknowledged the French guilt, something de Gaulle never did. German Chancellor was contrite even more than always; he has a good reason – the holocaust monument of unbelievable ugliness straddles Berlin as an eternal punishment. Slapping the weird Columbia Professors who try to distinguish between the Jews and Israel, Israeli national anthem Hatikwa was played in the UN for the memorial occasion.

If you have thought the remembrance had nothing to do with Israel, think again. Or, better, watch Kofi Annan atoning for his sins: he sacked Hanson, his Gaza rep, for he annoyed Sharon; he promised to fight antisemitism to the last antisemite; arranged for a special session of the UN General Assembly, pledged to Israel his word that the UN will be more attentive to her needs in future. Next to Annan stood his wife – we were told that she is a Wallenberg, and Raul Wallenberg was a royal Swede who saved many Jews and was killed by the Russians. There was another royal Swede who saved many Jews and was killed by the Jews – Folke Bernadotte – but he is forgotten even in Stockholm, where a Jewish millionaire bought a new TV channel this week to ensure this forgetfulness.

The headlines of Israeli newspapers enquire: “Did they learn the lesson?” Who are “they”? What lesson? The Jews won the war; that is the lesson for goyim, they implied. In order to deliver this lesson, some forty million men and women were killed, but anyway only Jews are remembered, so it was worth it. Nobody mentions the Russian soldiers who died at Stalingrad or the German civilians killed by Bomber Harris. The Japanese burned by the A-bomb are forgotten. As for American soldiers, there was Private Ryan, but he was saved.

But if it seen everywhere, why Israel is such a good place to watch the Penitence Day? Because only here you won’t have an illusion that ‘the lesson’ refers to unacceptability of racism or of ethnic cleansing or of cold-blooded murder. Straight after the news, Israel TV Channel One started a Round Table discussion: what should be done with goyim who think that the commandment “be fruitful and multiply” refers to them, too? The biggest danger for Israel, said the American favourite, Bibi Netanyahu, is not the Palestinians beyond the wall – it is the Israeli Arab citizens. They multiply too fast. They bring in their wives and husbands from the occupied territories and from abroad – this privilege should be granted for Jews only.

The Shas leader, Eli Yeshai, proposed to take them off National Insurance, so they won’t receive any financial help for their children. Professor Soffer fumed: the demographic bomb of non-Jews is ticking! There are too many of them. This is a Jewish country, the only one we have, while goyim have hundreds of countries to live in.

There are a few Arabs around the round table: a young student and a Member of Knesset. They try to speak of racism, but their fluent Hebrew was not understood: racism is something done to Jews, not by Jews. We have only one country, and we should plan what to do with the others, with non-Jews, so they won’t multiply.

On another channel, a speaker condemns Russian nationalists: they dare to say that they have only one country and they do not want their country run by the organised Jews. They do not plan to cut Jewish birth rate; they do not intend to expel Jews. The Russian nationalists quote the infamous rulings of Shulkhan Aruch now translated into Russian for indoctrination of the Russian Jews. They say that these rulings promote hatred of a goy among Jews. They want to use the hate laws against the Jewish hate-mongers. They say that the Jewish organisations in Russia openly support racist Israel. They and their fathers fought Nazi Germany not for benefit of some other racists, they say. The Jewish organisations in Russia know better what the hate laws are for; they demand from the Russian court to arrest the racists. Maybe they are racists, and maybe they are not; but they can’t be more racist than Dr Soffer, Bibi Netanyahu and Eli Yeshay.

The TV set brings in more news: three-year old Palestinian girl Rahma Abu Shamas, was killed Wednesday morning by Israeli army, thus defusing somewhat the demographic threat. The Supreme Court decided to approve the nomination of General Dan Halutz at the position of the deputy chief of General Staff. When the Air Force commander Dan Halutz was asked what does the pilot feel releasing a one ton bomb over densely populated Gaza refugee camp and killing fifteen children, he replied: “A slight bump. I sleep well”. The judges warned him to be more careful while giving an interview.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Wednesday that the world "didn't lift a finger" to stop the Holocaust. That was interesting news: I did not know Nazi Germany was stopped by the IDF. But indeed, death of millions of Russian soldiers and thousands of American and British ones is not the same as ‘lifting a finger’. This Sharon’s statement was an open, brazen insult to the vets; it was an insult to the families of the fallen soldiers; it was an insult to Russia, England and America. But they learned their lesson and quietly kneeled.



Your responses to the Auschwitz essay by Gilad Atzmon:
gilad.co.uk files/Auschwitz.html
Israel, this is brilliant far beyond words, I wish I had written it myself, it speaks from the heart and to the heart.

John Davies

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This is the best one yet, Israel. I've been interested in holocaust revisionism for 35 years and even wrote a foreword to the first English translation of Paul Rassinier's Drama of the European Jews in 1975. The fact that they outlaw discussion of this in several European countries, South Africa (under apartheid!), Israel and Canada has even more convinced me there is something to this. And it doesn't involve any pro-Nazi ideas, just getting at historical truth.

Michael Hardesty

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From Dan McGowan, Deir Yassin Remembered:

Gilad, I like most of what you have written, but certain paragraphs on the US Holocaust Museum are incorrect. You wrote:

“This museum is not really about Jewish suffering.”

Wrong; it almost exclusively about Jewish suffering. The others who died are given short shrift. You wrote:

I assume that there will be some basic facts that the museum won’t share with its visitors: for instance, it will not tell the passing crowd that the American government adopted a highly restrictive immigration policy that was never modified between 1933-1944, in order to block Jewish immigration.

Your assumption is wrong; the museum does this quite effectively, especially in describing the SS St. Louis with over 900 Jews from Holland that went in 1939 first to Cuba and then to the US, but was denied entry and was sent back, where most of the Jews were subsequently caught and sent to KZ camps. Americans are made to feel guilt for this act. Check this out for yourself: ushmm.org There are at least 50 pictures of the St. Louis and how America turned its back on the Jews.

It will avoid the fact that the American government refused or obstructed German offers of negotiation to remove Jews from Nazi controlled territories. Mostly important, it will hide the clear fact that the US air force was not instructed to disrupt the Nazi killing machine. Neither railways to Auschwitz nor Auschwitz itself was ever bombed neither by the RAF nor by the American Air Force. It seems as if a real murderous negligence was involved in the American decision making on the issue along side the war. For instance, on 20 August 1944, 127 flying fortress escorted by one hundred Mustang fighters successfully dropped their bombs on a factory less than five miles from Auschwitz. Not a single plane was diverted to attack the death camp.

Wrong; the museum notes this very clearly, again with the message that Americans are to feel further guilt for the suffering of Jews in WWII, and therefore are to feel a duty to support Jews and the quest for a Jewish state in Palestine regardless of who lived there or lives there now.

Dan.

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From Janet March

My dear Mr Shamir, what a wonderful correct epistle. I loved it and agree with it totally.

janet ny