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To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/26/2005 7:06:41 PM
From: maceng2  Respond to of 436258
 
There has been a lot of news on the "Guantanamo Four" on BBC and elsewhere. A google search comes up with an approximate 187,000 hits.

google.co.uk

news.bbc.co.uk

This story appears at about page 100

news.bbc.co.uk



To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/27/2005 6:59:02 AM
From: Gersh Avery  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
missile for sale on eBay

cnn.com



To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/27/2005 8:40:25 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone  Respond to of 436258
 
"They're so frightened, anything that happens to them, they start shooting right away."

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January 27, 2005
VIOLENCE
Across Baghdad, Security Is Only an Ideal
By JOHN F. BURNS

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Jan. 26 - When American troops entered Baghdad and overthrew the government of Saddam Hussein 21 months ago, Raad al-Naqib felt free at last.

But Dr. Naqib, a 46-year-old Sunni dentist who opposed Mr. Hussein, will not vote Sunday when Iraqis will have their first opportunity in a generation to participate in an election with no predetermined outcome. It is, he said, far too dangerous when insurgent groups have warned that they will kill anybody who approaches a polling station.

Starkly put, Baghdad is not under control, either by the Iraqi interim government or the American military.

On the bright spring day in April 2003 when marines helped topple Mr. Hussein's statue in Firdos Square, Baghdad, more than any other place in Iraq, was the place American commanders hoped to make a showcase for the benefits the invasion would bring.

Instead, daily life here has become a deadly lottery, a place so fraught with danger that one senior American military officer acknowledged at a briefing last month that nowhere in the area assigned to his troops could be considered safe.

"I would definitely say it's enemy territory," said Col. Stephen R. Lanza, the commander of the Fifth Brigade Combat Team, a unit of the First Cavalry Division that is responsible for patrolling a wide area of southern Baghdad with a population of 1.3 million people.

In the week that ended Sunday, according to figures kept by Western security companies with access to data compiled by the American command, Baghdad was hit by 7 suicide car bombings, 37 roadside bombs and 52 insurgent attacks involving automatic rifles or rocket-propelled grenades. The suicide bombs alone killed at least 60 people and injured 150 others.

Although the American military command has cited surveys purportedly showing 80 percent of Baghdad's residents are eager to vote, many people interviewed by reporters are like Dr. Naqib who say they will stay away.

"Every day, when you leave your home, you don't know what will happen - bombs, bullets, kidnapping," Dr. Naqib said as he braced himself against the near-freezing cold in the garden of the private sports club where he had taken his wife and three children for lunch, their first family outing in months. "You ask me about hope - there is no hope. On ordinary days, I cannot even allow my children to play in the garden. To them, a garden is something they only see through windows."

In one Baghdad office, only one of 20 people who were asked said he intended to vote; the others, all citing the fear of being attacked by insurgents, either as they walk to the polls - all civilian vehicle traffic has been banned on election day - or after they return home. American commanders have included Baghdad among four Iraqi provinces where they say security issues pose a major threat to the voter turnout.

The other 14 provinces, all with heavy Sunni Muslim populations, are Anbar, which includes the cities of Ramadi and Falluja; Salahadin, with the troubled cities Samarra and Bakuba; and Nineveh, whose capital is Mosul.

But for the elections' credibility, Baghdad may matter most, because it is the nation's capital, and because, with its intermingled population of Sunnis, Shiites, Christians and other groups, it is Iraq's most cosmopolitan city and thus, American officials believe, the most promising place for the civic norms represented by the election to take root.

If any one area demonstrates just how out of control parts of Baghdad are, it is along Haifa Street, two miles of tree-lined boulevard that run down the west bank of the Tigris River right to the Assassin's Gate, the northern entry to the vast command center for the American and Iraqi officials who now, together, effectively govern Iraq. Any journey on Haifa Street - as central to Baghdad as Fifth Avenue is to Manhattan - is fraught with the risk of ambush by insurgent groups from the dun-colored office and apartment buildings that flank it.

It was on Haifa Street that masked insurgents with drawn pistols ambushed three Iraqi election workers last month, forcing them from their vehicle, making them kneel in the road and shooting them in the head. Dozens of other attacks have made the street synonymous among the people of Baghdad with imminent death.

Every American attempt to root out the insurgents has failed, and their dominion is written loudly in graffiti on freshly painted, and repainted, walls. "Long live the resistance!" they say. "There is no God but Allah and his Prophet!"; "Death to the Americans and their Iraqi lackeys!"

American military units travel in heavily armed convoys, gunners in helmets and goggles swiveling 50-caliber machine guns on expressways and along inner-city shopping streets to ward off attacks, and not infrequently opening fire, with civilian casualties.

Along with insurgent attacks, the city has seen a surge of crime, including murders and kidnappings for ransom, that has undermined support for the Americans and all they represent - the elections included - as much as the war.

With hundreds of Baghdad police officers killed in insurgent attacks and others spending much of their time hunkered down at police stations hidden behind high concrete blast walls and watchtowers, police investigations have virtually ceased.

Hospital morgues are filled with unidentified bodies and body parts, many of them found floating in canals or decomposing on stretches of wasteland. Hardly anybody in Baghdad does not have a horror story to tell about children taken for ransom and later murdered, their bodies sometimes dumped at their homes.

Equally rife are tales of family members and friends murdered in disputes over property, illicit affairs, or in revenge for state-sponsored killings carried out under Mr. Hussein.

American commanders say the insurgents and criminal gangs are in league, criminals benefiting from the chaos caused by the insurgents, insurgents drawing criminals into their attacks.

Here, as in many other cities, the American command says, militant Sunni mosques have played a major role in the resistance, serving as centers for insurgents to meet, to plan, to hide, and to store weapons.

In a raid in November at the Yassen al Yassin mosque in southern Baghdad, Iraqi units working with Colonel Lanza's troops found nothing. But in the trunks of vehicles outside, they found an extensive arsenal of mortars, fragmentation grenades, rocket launchers, submachine guns, radio-controlled bomb detonators, stolen police flak jackets and black hoods liked those used by terrorist attackers. Several clerics and their assistants were arrested and taken to Abu Ghraib prison.

One tentative success story for the Americans has been Sadr City, the Shiite slum district on the capital's northeastern edge that is home to more than two million people. If election turnout is high anywhere in Baghdad, it is likely to be among the slum's dwellers, mostly followers of Moktada al-Sadr, the fiery Shiite cleric who twice last year mounted uprisings against American troops.

After the battering his fighters took in August, Mr. Sadr agreed to a truce, and ordered his men to cooperate with a $160 million American reconstruction effort that employs 18,000 Sadr City residents and involves rebuilding sewers, water pipes, electricity lines and health clinics.

But there remain wide swaths of the city where the insurgents, not the Americans or their Iraqi allies, appear to have the upper hand. The most threatening of these are predominantly Sunni districts like Adhamiya, where Mr. Hussein made his last stand as president, appearing on the hood of a car outside a mosque as American troops entered the city from the south.

But the most dangerous place of all, perhaps the most threatening in all Iraq, is the airport expressway, 10 miles of roadway that runs southwest from the city's core to the international airport and the adjacent sprawl of Camp Victory, the American military headquarters. In three months beginning last fall, the American command counted 14 suicide car bomb attacks on American convoys traveling the expressway.

American commanders, acknowledging they have little chance of stopping the suicide bombers once the bomb-laden vehicles set out, have authorized the machine-gunners in the last vehicle of each convoy to open fire on any driver who ignores hand signals and warning shots to back off as he approaches a convoy from the rear.

This tactic has led to a growing number of incidents in which American gunners, in Humvees traveling at 50 miles an hour or less, have fired at suspected car bombers, only to discover afterward that the drivers who died were innocent civilians who had missed the warning signals, or perhaps never knew that overtaking American convoys was likely to be fatal.

These incidents have compounded a widespread impression among the people of Baghdad that the Americans are careless of Iraqi lives. Dr. Naqib, the dentist, fearful as he is of insurgent attacks, said he feared the Americans more. "The Americans, they are part of the terrorism," he said.

"They're so frightened, anything that happens to them, they start shooting right away."

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To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/27/2005 9:47:59 AM
From: j-at-home  Respond to of 436258
 
how does anyone reconcile this sh*t?

such a contrast

I can hear this soundtrack playing ...

Booorrn Freeeee, As Freeee As Thee Wiind Bloooows

I see the video on screen ...

of small dark shapes leaping in and out of the shadows

While a bunch of helmeted dudes are shown in silhouette against a smokey, gray, demolished city landscape shouting ..

Release the Robot Army!

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meanwhile in our wacky world covered jwn at $47.43 .. and the beat goes on



To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/27/2005 12:26:37 PM
From: j-at-home  Respond to of 436258
 
lots of sh*t went down in secret in the 30s-50s apparently

gov labs

cheney, shrub, wolfowitz, rove, are hybrids

news.nationalgeographic.com

genetic engineering to become like cosmetic surgery

super soldiers



To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/27/2005 2:53:54 PM
From: j-at-home  Respond to of 436258
 
msnbc.msn.com

so much to be proud of



To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/27/2005 4:10:07 PM
From: j-at-home  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Rove and Bush confab

story.news.yahoo.com



To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (301044)1/29/2005 6:55:48 AM
From: j-at-home  Respond to of 436258
 
roanoke.com

Virginia Military Institute officials are investigating a 2004 barracks Halloween observance during which cadets dressed as Nazi soldiers, drag queens and a starving African.

Officials at the Lexington college were alerted to the behavior when someone referred them to an Internet message board on which four photographs of the costumed men are posted.

"We've been made aware of the possible involvement of a small number of VMI cadets in various insensitive and inappropriate photographic poses appearing on a Web site unaffiliated with VMI," spokesman Stewart MacInnis said. "VMI does not condone such behavior and this matter is being investigated accordingly. While recognizing cadets have rights as private citizens to express themselves, we are disappointed in their behavior and judgment."

MacInnis said officials are satisfied that the pictures posted at richmond.indymedia.org are from an October event in barracks during which cadets were permitted to dress in costume for the evening. The Web site is operated by the Richmond Independent Media Center and offers a forum for "promoting social and economic justice in the Richmond area," according to its mission statement.

One picture shows three men in their VMI-issued black shirts and gray pants giving the Nazi salute to the camera. Two are wearing homemade swastika armbands. One is wearing a small Hitler-style mustache.

...
Posted Thursday, the photos immediately generated a running online debate about their offensiveness. Some posters noted that they appeared weeks after England's Prince Harry was criticized by Jewish organizations for wearing a Nazi uniform to a recent costume party and that Thursday was the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz death camp.

Using the screen name "CBC," the person who posted the images said others should "condemn VMI's ability to laugh at the deaths of millions, make light of famine and race and mock homosexuality. These are, after all, the men who are supposed to one day graduate to their own posts at Gitmos [Guantanamo Bays] and Abu Ghraibs around the world."

A writer identified as "Sean," who said he is a VMI cadet, defended the costumes.

"We, the Corps of Cadets, were apalled [sic] at the Abu Ghraib incident, but seeing as how we're going to be in the midst of death and inhumanity and other such facts of life we need to be able to keep a sense of humor," he wrote.

"What's funny about the Nazis?" replied poster "James Spady."

A poster named "Joseph" advised others to "lighten up, anyone construing this as anything other than absurd and jovial is nothing short of anal retentive."

Even if they acted without malice, the cadets involved could still face disciplinary action.

MacInnis was unsure of what specific regulations VMI has regarding racial or ethnic sensitivity, but he noted that such behavior might also fit in the category of "conduct unbecoming a cadet."

New cadets receive instruction in sensitivity to matters of gender, race and the like, MacInnis said.

"VMI will continue to make strong efforts to educate the Corps in civility and respect for others," he said.

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don't give a damn about dumbasses specifically because ample family experience in both the UK and the US military has long ago demonstated that it is filled in the majority with the poor/uneducated .. but clearly the ranks of the leadership &/or future leadership continue to be filled with the rascist moron children of the better connected .. now with neocon nazis in power their kids get free reign to imitate and regress

today's racial cleansing is economic

will the poor whites, blacks, browns, yellows, etc. ever get wise that their skin color doesn't matter and combine and overthrow their masters? divided they remain while those at the top party in nazi dress

ho ho good times -ng