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To: epicure who wrote (95068)1/28/2005 11:10:09 AM
From: Oeconomicus  Respond to of 108807
 
"How DO you manage to be so very wrong so very often?"

Just trying to fit in here at feelies where speaking for the thoughts and beliefs of others is de rigueur.



To: epicure who wrote (95068)1/28/2005 11:19:43 AM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 108807
 
Success in Iraq means different things to different people. To Israel and their Jewish/Christians Zionist neocons moles in our government, success means the destabilization and fracture of Iraq into three different states; Kurds to the North, Sunnis in the Baghdad area, and Shiites to the south.
For the gullible American idealist, success means the creation of a modern pluralistic state. The irony rests in the fact that Saddam Hussein and the Baath Party had already created a pluralistic state where Sunnis, Kurds and Shiites had relative freedom under the Sunni dominated Baath party so long as they did not buck Husseins dictatorial vision.

So why was it necessary for America to invade Iraq and topple Hussein and his Baathist government? Because Hussein and the Baathist were enemies of the theocratic Zionist state. Husseins Baathist party and the pluralistic mechanism of his government were encouraged and approved by Washington back in the 70s and 80s. Even Rumsfeld was full of praise for the Baathist vision of a pluralistic secular society. It was never the nature of this pluralistic government that offended the Jewish/Christian neocons but rather the insistence of the Iraqi leaders that theocratic Zionist state establish a similar pluralistic society. The neocons insisted that Israel had a unique right to declare itself a theocratic Jewish state where the Jewish citizen held special privileges not granted to other members of society. The Zionist vision of a Jewish theocratic state is identical to the Iranian vision of a Moslem state dominated by Shiite Moslems. Iraq opposed the religious state of Iran and even fought a war against this theocratic state. In the vision of the Baathist, these theocratic states violated the principles of the modern secular and pluralistic state.