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To: longnshort who wrote (27867)	1/29/2005 4:04:10 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 90947

You miss the point, longnshort. It's OK to hate Americans or Jews. It's only a problem if the targets are fanatic Muslims. Just ask X or Granny. Or their sidekick Evil Vermin.

To: longnshort who wrote (27867)	1/29/2005 8:33:39 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 90947

ls, I'm not so sure that Wahhabi Islam is the problem. What I've read lately indicates that the primary influence on Al Qaeda and related group's leadership is not Wahhabism at all, but rather Qutbism, a relatively recent sect based on the writings of Sayyid Qutb from the 1950s and 1960s. From what I've read, his views (and those of his current followers) were based on a rather unschooled understanding of Islam, a distorted view of America (he lived here in 1949), anger over western support for the creation of Israel, and hatred for the secular government of Egypt (he was Egyptian). He founded the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and was executed there for plotting to overthrow the gov't. Here are a couple of links on the subject: npr.org saudi-american-forum.org This one is a cached page on google - there are related pages, but the website isn't functioning lately (I found it - functional, that is - a month or two ago): 64.233.161.104 There are other articles that disagree and connect Wahhabism to Iraq insurgents and even to Qutb, and describe Wahhabism very unflatteringly, the first even associating them with "the enemies of Islam": ummah.net washingtontimes.com Could be we're getting bits and pieces of feuding within Islam. It's not clear to me where the truth lies, but the NPR piece on Qutb and the info on thewahhabimyth.com seemed credible. Bob