To: jttmab who wrote (30536 ) 2/1/2005 8:40:18 PM From: Lazarus_Long Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284 Before I add another SubjectMark to my list, another one has to come off. Don't see one right now that is coming off. Nice try at BS. But BS it be nonetheless.Besides Medicare as an example of "socialized" medicine, you should have included Medicaid and, of course, that socialized medicine provided by the DoD to our fine men and women in uniform. Then of course there's all the individual programs funded by the Feds and States, e.g, medical services for pregnant women, clinics. Thanks to the likes of you, the US has a confused and confusing system, yes.It's also worth noting that in countries like Great Britain, National Health care isn't the entire health care system. Private health care is available as well. OH! WELL! That's what makes Canada interesting. I have been told by several Canadians that it is illegal there for a doctor to accept payment from a patient.So putting up infant mortality rates and longevity is considered "How To Lie With Statistics"?. Is it really your considered opinion that those are the only figures of importance? And you can't see how those figures can be influenced by factors ouside the medical system? Think about it. I'm SURE you can come up with something. And are those the only factors that should be considered? Suppose you gain 6 months in life expectancy, but the taxes you must pay to get it mean you live in a slovenly hovel all your life? Is it worth it? ROTFLOL. So putting up infant mortality rates and longevity is considered "How To Lie With Statistics"?. What a real treat. On the other hand, I suppose when the Administration withholds it's estimates for Medicare Prescriptions until after the Bill is signed is being honest and forthcoming. If you are looking for someone to defend those actions, look elsewhere. OTOH, they were meant to gain the support of one of your favorite groups- -AARP.