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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wayners who wrote (1309)	2/1/2005 12:01:40 PM
From: Richnorth	Respond to of 224717

I see you want to have the last word. Well, it is yours! Smile! Have a good 'un!

To: Wayners who wrote (1309)	2/1/2005 10:14:51 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 224717

Source: Slayings resembled Islamist executions Fatal wounds of New Jersey family suggest religious motive February 1, 2005 The distinctive way in which a New Jersey Coptic Christian and his family were murdered resembled executions by radical Islamists shown on the Arab sattelite channel al-Jazeera, according to relatives and a close friend. Hossam Armanious, an immigrant from Egypt, was found Jan. 14 with his wife Amal Garas and two daughters, bound and gagged with their throats slashed. Authorities have not determined whether the murders are tied to Islamic radicals, but they say Armanious received a death threat from a Muslim through an Internet chat service. Now, people close to the family have told researcher and author Robert Spencer that an eyewitness of the bodies at the funeral home says he clearly saw that each of the family members had not suffered "stab wounds to the throat," as the prosecutor's report states, but horizontal slits in their throats, along with two holes bored below the slits. The eyewitness also was able to see that the wrists of the youngest daughter were cut. The tatoo of the cross on the inside of one wrist was not defaced, however, said the witness, who added that he could not see the wrists of the other family members. Spencer noted that shortly after the murders, members of the Egyptian consulate went to visit Armonious's relatives to encourage them to keep quiet. The relatives wants to reserve judgment until the results of the case are released, Spencer said, but "they did say that the way the four family members were bound and gagged and the way their throats were slit with holes carved is similar to executions that are shown on al-Jazeera." The American public is not aware of this because the details of the executions are not often described in news accounts, Spencer noted. Authorities are examining robbery as a possible motive, but contrary to many news reports, none of the family's jewelry was taken, including a $3,500 ring Amal was wearing at the time of her murder. Spencer, who has reported the case through his weblog Jihad Watch, says it's still possible the murder was not Muslim-motivated, but the investigators have not taken steps to ensure a fair review of the evidence. "There are too many holes here, too many inconsistencies in the official story," he writes. He pointed out that an Armanious family friend with whom he spoke has names and motives of possible perpetrators but is still waiting for a call from investigators. The New York Sun reported this week that Armanious was just one of a number of Christians systematically tracked by a radical Islamic website because they debate Muslims on the popular Internet chat service PalTalk.com. Barsomyat.com features photographs and information about Christians who actively debate on PalTalk, including a group of photographs of a Syrian Christian, "Joseph," who now lives in Canada. One comment warns: "Know, oh Christian, that you are not far from us and you are under our watchful eyes!" The Islamic website's banner displays lamb with its throat being slit and a crucifix crossed out by a violent red "X." The main heading, in Arabic, says "Christians: Revealing the Truth Behind Our Belief." The FBI is investigating the website, according to Northjersey.com. "We are aware of that site, and we are looking at it," FBI spokesman John Conway said. "It's an interesting site to say the least. ... It's unknown to anybody right now what credence to put into this." worldnetdaily.com

To: Wayners who wrote (1309)	2/3/2005 5:26:41 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 224717

Jersey jihadists Joel Mowbray February 2, 2005 townhall.com When a family of Egyptian immigrants was murdered in Jersey City recently, the media’s response was to wring its hands about anti-Muslim bias. But the truth is more complicated, and reveals the media’s own bias--against America. Anti-Muslim bias had nothing to do the killing of the Armanious family; they were Coptic Christians. It wasn’t the religion of the victims that concerned the press; it was the religion of the suspected murderers. Over the weekend, the Associated Press wrote of the “dirty looks and shouted slurs” directed at Muslims in Jersey City following the slaughter of an Egyptian Christian man, his wife, and two young daughters, which many reports attribute to local radical Islamists upset about something the man wrote in an Internet chat room. The AP followed in predictable fashion: The strife is particularly distressing in light of efforts the area’s Muslim community made to reach out to other faiths and strengthen ties after the 9/11 attacks. What the AP conveniently ignored, however, was known and suspected radical activity in northern New Jersey's Muslim community. The former imam at the El Tawheed Islamic Center of Jersey City, Alaa Al-Sadawi, was convicted in July 2003 of attempting to smuggle more than $650,000 in cash to the terrorist Global Relief Fund in Egypt in April 2002. One of Al-Sadawi’s former mosque-goers was convicted last March of murdering in the name of Islam. Alim Hassan, then 31, killed his pregnant wife, her mother, and her sister on July 30, 2002. He reportedly stabbed the women more than 20 times each because they refused to convert to Islam. According to reports, Hassan prayed regularly at El-Tawheed. Al-Sadawi and Hassan were hardly the first Muslims in the area, though, to appear on authorities’ radar. Mohamed El-Mezain , the former imam at the nearby Islamic Center of Passaic County, which has close relations with El-Tawheed, worked with the Paterson-based mosque to raise funds for Hamas in the mid-1990s, according to an FBI memo drafted in November 2001 by the FBI’s assistant director of counterterrorism Dale Watson. El-Mezain, who is no longer affiliated with the Islamic Center, was never charged or arrested. The FBI document, which served as the basis for the U.S. government shutting down the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development in December 2001, cited a “reliable” source in noting that “during a speech at the Islamic Center of Passaic County (ICPC) in November, 1994, Mohammad El-Mezain, the HLFRD’s current Director of Endowments and former Chairman of the HLFRD Board, admitted that some of the money collected by the ICPC and the HLFRD goes to Hamas or Hamas activities in Israel. El-Mezain also defended Hamas and the activities carried out by Hamas.” El-Mezain also openly raised funds for Hamas, according to the FBI memo. After a speech at a Muslim rally in Southern California in the mid-90’s in which the keynote speaker urged attendees to “exterminate” and “finish off the Israelis,” El-Mezain asked for contributions and told the crowd that $1.8 million had been raised for Hamas in 1994 alone, according to the memo. Radicalism at ICPC hardly seems to have subsided. The mosque in February 2003 hosted a lecture by Abdelhaleem Ashqar, long after he was identified by the FBI memo as a prominent Hamas figure. Investigators in Jersey City have yet to announce the motive for the murder of the Armanious family. But if it turns out that the murder or murders were religiously-motivated Muslims, with whom will the media sympathize: those grieving for the victims or those who attend the same hate-filled mosques as the murderers? Is there any doubt?