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To: RetiredNow who wrote (216587)	1/31/2005 6:39:08 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571405

re: Yet, the Iraqis themselves have said they want us to stay in order to help them achieve freedom. That is the opposite of truth. In fact many say that the turnout was strong because they thought they could get the US troops out by voting. If keeping US troops in Iraq was a ballot initiative, I guarantee it would have been kick the SOB's out. On average, 60 "terrorist" acts every day in Iraq. And you are declaring victory? On election day there were some 140+. We've created a lot of "terrorists" in Iraq, maybe they will retire now? John

To: RetiredNow who wrote (216587)	1/31/2005 9:07:57 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571405

>> I don't mind the rants against Bush These people simply can't come to terms with the fact that Bush's policy has been a resounding success. The first week of the war, during the sandstorm, they tuned up with the whining. Now, we've heard for two years we don't have enough men in the region (as Rumsfeld pointed out, you go to war with the Army you have -- in this case, the one Bush inherited). That the elections wouldn't happen. That the Iraqis did not and would not appreciate us or want us there. That it made us less safe, not more. Today, we see we were right and they were wrong. We now see a democracy developing in the center of the Middle East. The Palestinians are coming to terms (I know, I know, Arafat kicked). By all accounts, the Egyptians are saying, "What about US?". The youth of Iran are clearly not going to tolerate all this freedom next door while they are held captive. I tell you, this is going to play out just as Bush and those awful neocons planned it. And the liberals CANNOT STAND IT.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (216587)	1/31/2005 10:13:23 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571405

Yet, the Iraqis themselves have said they want us to stay in order to help them achieve freedom. Bush has said, and I agree with him that the security of our country is increasingly tied to the security and freedom of other countries, particularly those in the Middle East. Lastly, you can't claim to care for a people in one breath and then say it's too expensive to help them in the other. Your comments in the above clearly stem from a kind of naiveté. Of course, the Iraqis want us to stay in Iraq. After all, we are picking up the tab and their security forces apparently are not up to the task. Why would you do what they want? ted