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RAY REAVES - FIELDPOINT PETROLEUM CORPORATION (FPPC) CEO Interview - published 02/07/2005
DOCUMENT # ABA607
RAY D. REAVES, CEO and Chairman of the Board of the FieldPoint Petroleum Corporation since 1989, has 15 years of experience in the oil and gas industry. He began his career in 1986, with North American Oil and Gas. Subsequently, in 1989 he purchased an interest in 10 of their wells and formed Bass Petroleum, Inc. Under Mr. Reaves' management in the years that followed, Bass Petroleum, Inc., gained majority control of the 10 original wells and acquired interests in another 60 wells. In 1998, Bass Petroleum merged with Energy Production Corporation and, as a result, FieldPoint Petroleum Corporation was born. FieldPoint has grown to a $6 million asset base with varying interests in over 300 wells and complete operating control of 59 wells in three states.
Sector: oil & gas drilling & exploration
TWST: Would you start us off with an overview and history of FieldPoint Petroleum?
Mr. Reaves: FieldPoint Petroleum is an oil and gas exploration and production company with operations in Oklahoma, New Mexico, Texas and Wyoming. Our strategy has been first, to grow through acquisitions and development and second, to grow our reserves through the drill bit. FieldPoint has successfully executed that plan. In this high oil price environment, however, we're finding that deals are a little harder to come by, so we've shifted our focus on drilling for reserves. Thus, we are beginning a drilling program in Q1 of 2005 with a spud date of approximately February 15, 2005. This 2005 program will begin in New Mexico.
TWST: Why New Mexico? What's the appeal?
Mr. Reaves: The appeal there is that our leasehold has nice pockets of gas reserves. We're going after deep gas ' in the 13,000-14,000 foot range ' and those are long-lived reserves, meaning 20 plus years. That's the real appeal of the region. Our focus has always been on long-lived reserves, whether they be oil or gas, because we think that gives the company more stability over the long haul.
TWST: Drilling for deep reserves is costly. What are these wells going to run you?
Mr. Reaves: These wells should be drilling complete at $1.7-$2 million, so they are costly. For that reason, we've enlisted partners. In the case of the first well, FieldPoint has enlisted a major partner who will put up a majority of the money. For example, if the drilling phase costs $1.3 million and the completion phase costs approximately $400,000, you're looking at a total cost of $1.7 million, of which $1.3 million will be borne by our partners. Because FieldPoint controls the leasehold, it will not participate in that $1.3 million in costs. If we retain a 20% interest, we pay 20% of the $400,000 completion cost, or $80,000, but don't have to pay any of the $1.3 million drilling cost. So that bodes well for FieldPoint in the fact that if you hit a big well on your first well, your cost basis is so low that you're probably looking at a one or two month payback. Then, as you enter into the second well of the program, where we have to pay our share of the drilling costs, we can essentially cover that cost with the production from both wells. Given the potential of the wells, the potential return definitely bodes well for the company in terms of increased revenues, increased production and increased cash flow.
TWST: Is that a sweeter than normal deal?
Mr. Reaves: I would say so, but only because we own what proved to be a very attractive drilling site. Consequently, we're not exposed to any drilling costs, which is really the expensive phase of drilling and completing a well. Drilling is probably your largest expenditure.
TWST: Why were you able to get such a good deal?
Mr. Reaves: We are looking at deals all the time in terms of acquisitions, and we acquired the leasehold in New Mexico on April 1, 2004. That property has a total cost basis to us of approximately $1 million, and we're currently cash flowing approximately $40,000-$45,000 a month from it. But we had to kiss a lot of frogs before we found one that turned into something that we think is worthwhile. Going forward, we feel like we're going to have to evaluate at least 75 to 100 deals before we find one or two that make sense. I mean deals that make sense from the standpoint of existing production, which equates into immediate cash flow, that offer developmental opportunities, whether they are behind pipe or other types of re-completion, and development opportunities through the drill bit. New Mexico offered all three of those. Our determination to find the right deal and willingness to walk away from all the others has been critical to our success in building the company. When a deal doesn't make sense and when they don't meet the criteria we've set, we walk away. We have to have cash flow and a certain rate of return for us to go forward with it. New Mexico met those requirements.
TWST: What kind of return are you looking for?
Mr. Reaves: On average, we're looking for better than a 20% yield. If you look at FieldPoint historically and you look at all the acquisitions we've done, from the smallest to the largest, we have averaged approximately a 24-month payout. In essence, if we put $1 million into a deal, within 24 months we've gotten $1 million back, and that property continues to generate cash flow. That has been the norm for us. With this high oil and gas price environment, you're probably going to have to stretch that equation out a little. Instead of 24 months, you may have to anticipate 36 months, maybe 40 months or higher, depending on the situation. But we have just not had the stomach to look at 50-month, 60-month or 70-month payouts. We don't think that fits our business plan and if we don't see the opportunity in a deal to bring our money back in quickly, we avoid it.
TWST: You say you're starting a drill program now. What does it look like for the rest of this year and for next year?
Mr. Reaves: For the remainder of this year, if we drill four wells, that's going to be a good target for us. We think four wells of this magnitude could more than double our daily production on a BOE basis. Going into 2006, our goal would be to drill an additional four to eight wells. Having said that, bear in mind that we are also looking for acquisitions that definitely will involve existing production and existing development. So that's our goal for 2005, to drill a minimum of four wells ' maybe more, but a minimum of four. Going into 2006, we'd like to drill a minimum of four and probably a maximum of eight wells.
TWST: In terms of acquisitions, I hear that everybody's looking for them. Are they not getting a little tough to come by these days at reasonable prices?
Mr. Reaves: It's a very competitive environment, yes. That's why I shared with you earlier the thought that we may have to expand our horizon in terms of the rate of return and the payout that we're looking for. Properties are going for outrageous amounts right now. People are paying exorbitant prices for oil and gas properties and reserves, so it's definitely more challenging to find low risk deals that have steady cash flow & upside to grow production. But we have a strong balance sheet. Our income statement is truly impressive for a company our size. I think the stronger we get, the more we're going to be able to put ourselves in a strong competitive position to go after bigger deals.
TWST: You mentioned the balance sheet. What does it look like at this point?
Mr. Reaves: At this point, we're sitting on in excess of $1 million in cash with debt of less than $1.5 million. We've got solid properties on the books and total assets of approximately $6.5 million. We've got equity of just over $4 million, and believe it will increase along with our asset base as we continue to make money.
TWST: What has been the experience so far in the region where you're drilling?
Mr. Reaves: EOG has drilled a well approximately a mile or a mile and a half south from us. That well, from what I understand, produced approximately 4 million cubic feet of gas a day in terms of gas production in November, and averaged 4 million a day in terms of gas sales too. I think the well is continuing to produce in the 3 million a day category as of the first part of January.
TWST: So there's some evidence that there is gas around.
Mr. Reaves: There definitely is gas in that area. Obviously, you can hit dry holes. But we do have some well control, and we do believe this is an area that will be a very good project for FieldPoint to participate in.
TWST: Do you have the technical expertise to give you confidence in that?
Mr. Reaves: Yes, we do. We have geologists who have been studying this for quite some time. Looking at their work, based on the geology and on some of the activity in the area, it should bode well for us to participate in this expensive exploration.
TWST: If we look out over the next year, what are the benchmarks or milestones that investors should look for?
Mr. Reaves: I think increased production is number one. We currently produce approximately 230-250 barrels a day BOE. We'd like to see that increase to about 500 barrels a day BOE by the end of the year, and by the end of 2006, we'd like to see that double again. So we'd like to go from the 230-250 BOE a day we do currently to approximately 800-1,000 BOE a day by year-end 2006 or the beginning of 2007. Those are just a couple of criteria, but I think if you can meet those criteria in particular, you're going to start to see that equate into higher cash flow, higher profitability and higher valuations for this Company.
TWST: Is the market appropriately valuing the company at this point?
Mr. Reaves: If you look at our earnings per share, for the nine months ending September 2004 we earned approximately $0.05 a share, and let's say we match the third-quarter results with fourth-quarter results. If it's a match, that would give us approximately $0.08 a share for 2004 or a 400% increase over 2003 earnings. I believe the market may be valuing FieldPoint based on our existing assets and production, but may not be assigning FieldPoint any value for the exciting drilling projects we have planned and just recently initiated. As you know, high growth companies tend to deserve higher multiples, so that's a tough question to answer. I'm going to let the market decide the Company's valuation, while I focus on improving the fundamentals.
TWST: Do you think the market understands what you're trying to do?
Mr. Reaves: I can't say that they understand what we're doing yet. But I can say this. As we continue with our strategy, as we continue to seek quality acquisitions and drill more wells, we plan to get out and share with the marketplace, share with the capital markets what we're doing, and we hope for a favorable response.
TWST: When you talk to your investors at this point, what's the key question or concern you hear?
Mr. Reaves: The key question I hear is, 'Will you be able to continue maintaining your current production levels?' They're not so worried about increasing; they're worried about maintaining. The way you do that is through development, through drilling and through acquisitions. But we're looking to do more than just maintain. We want to increase our daily production. With the right acquisition and some successful drilling, we'll be able to not just maintain but increase production.
TWST: Where do oil prices have to stay to make this all work for you from a return point of view?
Mr. Reaves: Let me say this, we're profitable at less than $20 a barrel. We're basing our acquisition strategy on $28-$30 a barrel oil and $4- $4.50 in gas. Anything above that, the company is very strong. If we stay in the $40 range for oil and, let's say, the $5-$6 range for gas, you're going to see our cash flow continue at a wonderful pace. With any increase in production, you're going to see significant improvement in cash flow.
TWST: So the current environment is very favorable for you.
Mr. Reaves: It's extremely favorable for us. $40 plus is a windfall for FieldPoint Petroleum.
TWST: You're not alone!
Mr. Reaves: I'm sure we're not alone. We're just a really small company. If you try to put together a public peer group, we're probably one of the smaller companies in our category. So we're not on many radar screens, and it's up to us to perform through sound management and an acquisition and development strategy that will pan out for us. If we can do that, I think we can move up to the next tier, meaning that we can go from the OTC bulletin board to the AMEX or maybe even the NASDAQ small cap. These are just some goals that we have. And I think, as we show continued success, we'll be able to achieve those goals within the next few years. And $40 oil should help us in any case.
TWST: When you sit down with potential investors, what two or three reasons do you give them to take a look at FieldPoint at this juncture?
Mr. Reaves: Number one, we're undiscovered and therefore undervalued relative to our earnings, cash flow and assets. Number two, our drilling program in New Mexico should increase production, if successful. Three, we're very well run. Look at the balance sheet. I think it's very important that you look at the financials on FieldPoint, look at our debt to equity, look at our income statement in terms of earnings and cash flow. Those are really the main aspects of FieldPoint that I would encourage investors to take a look at. If you do that, I believe you're going to come away impressed. We are small. But when you're small, it doesn't take much for you to double and triple the size of your company, and that's what we're hoping to do.
TWST: Can you remain independent or are you likely to become a target?
Mr. Reaves: That's up to the market. Our goal is to continue to add value. If someone can see that value, recognize that value and wants to pay up or wants to propose a deal to us, obviously, I'd take it to the Board of Directors and let them make that decision. But at this point in time, our strategy is to grow this company, take it from the current $6.5 million in assets to, let's say, $20-$40 million in assets over the next three to four years.
TWST: You have been buying shares personally in the market even though you already have a sizeable stake in the company.
Mr. Reaves: As of my last purchase in November, I own 2,905,000 shares or about 38% of the outstanding shares. I think it's important for management to be willing to step up to the plate with their own money and align their goals with their shareholders. I'm buying shares just like any other investor with the belief they will yield me a good return.
TWST: Thank you. (TJM)
RAY D. REAVES Chairman & CEO FieldPoint Petroleum Corporation 1703 Edelweiss Drive Cedar Park, TX 78613 (512) 250-8692 (512) 335-1294 - FAX www.fppcorp.com e-mail: fppc@ix.netcom.com
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