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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (59832)	2/1/2005 6:37:17 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

On reflection, the maths is dodgy: [note, $ are NZ$] <Women are the ones who have babies and that's the main thing women who have babies do [unless they are unusally talented]. They create $2 million in value if they bear and raise a healthy, productive young adult [according to current NZ government calculations for road death costs]. In the working world, they average about $100,000 a year in GDP production x 20 years work = $2 million. Hmmm, much the same value.> In fact, women produce, in our case, 4 children, which as young adults are worth $2 million. That's $8 million created. Input costs were a LOT less than that. So having healthy babies raised to adulthood is the most valuable thing [on average] women can do. Not many jobs create $8 million in value in 20 years, with part time effort. 4 children is full time for 10 years, but after that it increasingly becomes part time as they go to school and take over running their own lives during their adolescence. By age 20 they only swing by to raid the fridge and chuck laundry in the machine. Women raising high quality young adults produce a LOT of value. It's weird that women producing and raising children is generally considered a low status job. How many women in the workforce produce $8 million in value in 20 years? That would be $400,000 a year. Not many. Nor many blokes either. When businesses produce such valuable goods, the costs of production are tax deductible and everyone earns a salary. With child production, women get no salary and expenses are considered personal and no deductions are allowed. The state takes control of the finished goods and starts bleeding them as they start earning. It's an insane system. A form of modern slavery and cannibalism. The electoral collective of tax bludgers is a parasite on the productive. Weirdly, people go on voting for more of the same, like turkeys voting for more Thanksgivings. Sheeple voting to be fleeced. Women vote for the system too. Child-bearing women do too. Mqurice

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (59832)	2/2/2005 2:18:06 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

Brazil's the second black nation after Nigeria. No KKK there. No need for a Martin Luther. Social problems, yes, there are a few. But we are finishing the Negroes by interbreeding them and creating mulatas and mulatos. I haven't see a Brazilian woman going to the streets burning their bras. Oh my God "self determination???". That's why you need a Minister of Women Affairs. From the first poor little defenceless being you call woman I was luck to get out with two suitcases and my Rolex only. She took everything!!!!