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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: twmoore who wrote (9791)	2/2/2005 4:57:08 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 20039

Re: There will not be a concerted effort by any investigative reporters to get to the bottom of 9/11 until Bush leaves the Presidency.Everyone is to scared. Don't bank on it... The 911 conspiracy won't crack after Bush's second term --especially if he's succeeded by another Republican. Now, the good news is that other countries --ie foreign intelligence services-- know the truth on 911. So far, and for obvious reasons, only Arab/Muslim dissenters dared pipe up (like Pakistan's retired intelligence chief Gul, for instance) and were duly dismissed as Bin Laden sympathizers or Muslim loonies. As for European countries, I don't think you should worry: Judeocons keep bashing "Ol'Europe" as an anti-Semitic, anti-American pit but the Transatlantic lifeline ($300 billion annually, 6 million EU jobs) is well enough for European insiders to keep mum on 911... China, however, is another kettle of fish: if the Chinese leaked something on 911, I don't think you could dismiss it as "Islamic propaganda", could you?

To: twmoore who wrote (9791)	2/2/2005 5:45:04 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

Ooops! I barked up the wrong tree: Russia might be first to blow the gaff on 911 --call it tit-for-tat.... Asylum decision suggests that US patience with Putin is wearing thin Simon Tisdall Wednesday February 2, 2005 The Guardian When the US granted political asylum to Alyona Morozov last month, it gave no explanation for its decision. But the reason is not hard to discern. Ms Morozov accused Russia's secret services of involvement in a series of apartment block bombings in Moscow and elsewhere in September 1999 which killed 246 people. Making such an allegation is potentially harmful to health. Chechen separatists were officially blamed for the attacks. They led to the launch by Vladimir Putin, then Russia's prime minister, of the second Chechen war. Mr Putin's tough response impressed voters. He won the presidency the following March. Ms Morozov, aged 28, whose mother was killed in their Moscow apartment, demanded an international investigation. She suspects that the FSB, successor to the KGB, masterminded the bombings to boost support for Mr Putin, himself a former KGB agent. Mr Putin has denied any official involvement. "It is immoral even to consider such a possibility," he said. But Ms Morozov is not alone in her suspicions. The independent television station NTV reported on the eve of the March 2000 election that police had detected FSB agents allegedly planting another bomb in apartments in Ryazan two weeks after the attacks. The FSB claimed its agents were conducting a security exercise. In June 2000, NTV's owner, Vladimir Gusinsky, was arrested. The state took control of NTV in 2001 and he was forced into exile. In 2002, a parliamentary commission was created to investigate the bombings. A year later, two of its four members were dead. Yuri Shchekochikhin, an MP and deputy editor of the investigative journal Novaya Gazeta died of a mysterious allergy. His symptoms were similar to those of the Ukrainian leader, Viktor Yushchenko, who was poisoned last year. Another commission member, Sergei Yushenkov, was shot down outside his home. His murder has never been solved. Mikhail Trepashkin, a retired FSB agent turned private investigator who worked for the commission and was also Ms Morozov's attorney, ran into trouble in October 2003. A week before he was to publish his findings, Mr Trepashkin was accused of espionage. He was arrested, allegedly tortured, jailed for four years last May, and faced further charges in December. Mr Trepashkin had reportedly identified a photo-fit picture of a bombing suspect as that of a former FSB agent, Vladimir Romanovich. But Romanovich, it transpired, was also dead, killed in a car crash a few months after the 1999 attacks. Two Chechens received life sentences last year in connection with the bombings. But despite the scale of the outrages, no one else has been charged. And western governments have not challenged the official account for fear of upsetting Mr Putin. The US decision to grant Ms Morozov's asylum application may be a tacit signal that this is changing. Alarmed by Mr Putin's increasingly authoritarian rule and his meddling in Ukraine, the US is reviewing bilateral relations ahead of a Bush-Putin summit in Slovakia this month. George Bush is being urged to take a second, harder look at the man he called a soul-mate and nicknamed Pootie-Poot when they first met in 2001. Russia's G8 presidency next year could be a casualty of this reappraisal. Russians are also having their doubts. A recent poll found that only one in four trusted the president. A Russian civil liberties group has condemned Mr Trepashkin's treatment. Human Rights Watch said recently that while Mr Putin "continues to present himself as a believer in democracy and human rights, by his re-election in 2004 both the political opposition and independent television had been obliterated". Yelena Bonner, widow of the celebrated communist-era dissident Andrei Sakharov, has spoken up for Ms Morozov and other government opponents who remain in Russia. "Mr Trepashkin and his fellow political prisoners ... are in the same situation as the dissidents from Soviet days," Ms Bonner wrote recently. "Just as Mr Putin carries on the traditions of his KGB predecessors, they stand up bravely to repression." guardian.co.uk

To: twmoore who wrote (9791)	2/2/2005 2:05:11 PM
From: Don Earl	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

If memory serves me correctly, air samples were taken on a regular basis around the trade center. I wouldn't be surprised if evidence of trace elements of explosives are already on record someplace.