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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (20784)2/3/2005 9:58:35 AM
From: austrieconomist  Respond to of 108780
 
Bot another gold contract, December at 428.50, to replace Feb contract expiring last week. Currently holding 3 contracts.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (20784)2/3/2005 10:01:54 AM
From: SOROS  Respond to of 108780
 
I hope you are right. I've been seeing this scenario for some time now, yet, the Admin., the Fed, and the mainstream financial press STILL seem to be able to pull the dollar up and gold down on nothing more than a speech and some orchestrated "good feeling" pre-arranged "hugs" on national TV. Don't imagine we'll ever see the opposite of those two "sought-out" paraders -- foreign families who have lost children in the war for no reason, families who have lost sons looking for WMD, Laden family members who were put on fast planes to get out of the country by our gov't post 911, old people trying to just eat each month and get prescription meds on Social Security while retired "public servants" live like millionaires off of the backs of the US workers, "palm-greased" corporate heads meeting in back rooms with currently employed "public servants" packing financial bills with more PORK which no one will read for fear that their portion of the pork will be discovered, a "listen" to the black boxes and video tapes of the pentagon crash from the 911 tragedy. I have a sneaky suspicion that if someone could bug the highest levels of gov't and the Fed, and let everyone secretly listen in for just a few minutes on just ONE day even, eyes would be opened and GOLD and the DOW would finally be equal in numbers near 3000 . . . but then that would be an America perhaps from the founding fathers time and not the entertainment and dollar-worshipping america of today.

I remain,

SOROS



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (20784)2/3/2005 1:42:01 PM
From: ItsAllCyclical  Respond to of 108780
 
Inflation is already here. In financial assets such as GOOG, TZOO, AAPL, in home prices, material costs and any sector that can't be shipped to China (eg. has pricing power -college/education costs and health care being the biggest).

I don't think it shows up in finished goods in a big way until China and/or Japan relax their articifial currency pegs.

Agree, the numbers are completely bogus. Almost half the CPI is rent. Even CNBC was questioning the numbers at various times this year.

Low productivity was talked about this morning as a catalyst for potential inflation as the FED tries hopelessly to re-inflate. However, there is still no pricing power due to China so I think it'll just eat into profit margins and cause more layoffs.

I think the next decade will see inflation and deflation at the same time in different asset classes. Greenspan and Co. will manipulate the numbers to show low inflation overall and meanwhile the Greenback will continue on it's merry course of value destruction.

Gold will decouple from the Euro as it's primary driver, but it'll probably take gold going over $500. (Q3-Q4 in 2005 I'd say)

>> Price increases are finally going to become the norm - with many increases being substantial... and wage pressure to follow. <<

This has been the worst post-recession job creation in history. I don't see it changing w/the consumer still 2/3 of the economy and that consumer becoming more and more "tapped out".

>> Jobs will be key... if Job Growth Continues & Wage Increases offset some of these rising prices & Interest Rates...the Consumer Spending Economy may stay hotter than people think, for longer than they think... and POG may be ready for it's next leg up with it's old friend - Mr. Inflation being the catalyst. <<

Job growth could re-start the virtuos cycle, but don't see it happening w/the current status quo. If the Dollar continues to fall you will eventually see some production come back to the US. How many years this takes and what sort of an impact it'll have I have no idea, but I don't see wage pressure anytime soon.

It would be interesting though if a competing form of the CPI got started. I could see the AARP wanting to start their own meassure since their benefits are being slowly eroded by the bogus CPI. That could be a huge catalyst, but it would probably take a 6-12 months at a minimum before the new survey was taken seriously. They could lobby congress to change the existing formula which would be far more likely. To date, I haven't seen it even mentioned - which I find surprising.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (20784)2/3/2005 2:09:20 PM
From: ItsAllCyclical  Respond to of 108780
 
FWIW, just did a quick google search on AARP and CPI.

Came up with quite a few entries, but interestingly some talk about inflation being overstated (agree maybe prior to 1990 or so, but today's number appears to be understated).

research.aarp.org

Different meassures of CPI (somewhat intersting)

research.aarp.org

Given Bush's desire to privatize a part of SS, the CPI rate applied/used is going to be a big deal in '05 me thinks. Look for Bush to cite this study (or one similiar) as method of having his cake and eating it too (from '98)

cnn.com

>> The commission concluded CPI is "consistently and substantially overstated," according to chairman Michael Boskin of Stanford. By 1.1 percent. <<



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (20784)2/4/2005 1:05:42 AM
From: ranch-hand  Respond to of 108780
 
SLIDER: Does your outlook for gold and the economy change if we are heading into stagflation rather than just inflation? Thanks. RANCH



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (20784)2/8/2005 7:04:31 PM
From: crdesign  Respond to of 108780
 
Thanks for the link Slider,

My favorite paragraph in that article:

NOTE THE BOLD TEXT

Whirlpool executives also said they were investigating the possibility of repatriating foreign earnings under the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004. The law gives U.S.-based, international companies a one-year window to reduce their tax rates on overseas profits brought back to the United States and reinvested here. A company's tax rate can fall from 35 percent to as low as 5.25 percent if a company plans to use the money for hiring and training workers, making capital investments, research and development, financial stabilization or advertising and marketing.

What is the best way to capitalize on the bold statements?

Interesting wording of a Federal Act.

Not a lawyer, Tim



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (20784)3/23/2005 9:40:16 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack  Respond to of 108780
 
Can you say ....... I-N-F-L-A-T-I-O-N ......... ?

re: Message 21012331

Rising Rates...Ramping Inflation.

whodathunkit ?

We are now approaching a real potential tipping point crisis for the USD.

Greenspan knows what raising rates to required levels is going to do to the USD and the Bond Market.

Fannie Mae Cracking...fissures appearing all over the Mortgage Market.

The Tsunami of all potential Rogue Wave Events - a Derivatives Crisis has seemlingly been forgotten.

Here's a nice little reality check update on where we now find ourselves in LTCMx10 Deja vu all over again-land:

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The following is Hon. Mario Lettieri's speech to the Italian Chamber of Deputies on March 14.

The Derivatives Bubble:

However, one year later, not only do we find confirmation of what we had written and what I presented in my first intervention, but unfortunately, we must also observe that the systemic financial crisis is producing shocks on the markets in an increasingly significant and negative manner, with increasingly serious and uncontrollable consequences, at a level which clearly goes beyond that of Italy.

The gap between the real economy and the economy based on financial speculation is of an almost inconceivable magnitude.
The leading market of course, is London, which is almost twice as large as the American market.

The BIS declared that it was quite worried because the speculative funds, the so-called hedge funds, have an increasing importance in these operations, to the point that 43% of all contracts do not involve a bank, but rather a hedge fund or insurance company as one of the counterparties. And this is a worrying fact, since banks, although they can be criticized and need to be more transparent, do offer a minimum level of guarantees, unlike these funds.

Consider what has happened with certain large banks; for example, Morgan Chase alone, has increased its derivatives exposure by about $10,000 billion, almost the size of U.S. GDP.

The total value of derivatives exposure is thus larger than world GDP:

< ******************************* SOBERING *********************************>

We are faced with a situation in which, if there were crises that could lead to a crash, the situation would cause a global financial breakdown, with devastating effects on the economy, wealth, and life of many countries.

The most recent report available from the BIS, on derivatives at the end of December 2004, brings the total of contracts open at the end of June to over $220,000 billion: an enormous, scary amount, which highlights an increase of $50,000 billion more in 12 months!

It is definitely important to emphasize that, at the end of June 2001, according to the official BIS reports, OTC derivatives were $100,000 billion. Thus, in three years, there has been an increase of $120,000 billion, equal to three times world GDP.

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Here's an interesting take on Greenspan's present nightmare:

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gold-eagle.com

Where will the Fed find shelter after the tornado of runaway inflation has struck?

The seriousness of the problem cannot be overstated. A steep rise in interest rates at this juncture would be the horror of horrors.

Normally higher interest rates would strengthen the value of the currency as they attracted foreign investors. Not this time.

Apart from the problem of pricking all the bubbles in the economy starting with the housing bubble, and ballooning the budget deficit into outer space, there is an even larger and more immediate problem. And that is the effect that steeply rising interest rates have on the value of bonds, widely held at home and abroad. The effect is inevitable and instantaneous. Higher interest rates make bond values collapse.

You have to be very clear in your mind about this, so I spell it out. The dollar losing value on the foreign exchanges because of the trade gap is one thing.

Dollar-bonds losing value due to higher interest rates is another thing. Nevertheless it is entirely possible, and right now appears highly probable, that the two losses will be inflicted simultaneously.

Losses on bonds will compound the loss on the dollar. The compounded loss shall exceed the critical mass of bearable losses, and will trigger a chain reaction of further losses.

The confidence in the dollar will be fatally and irreparably shaken, domestically as well as internationally.

How likely is that to happen? In my opinion not very likely. The Fed must have a contingency plan to prevent a steep rise in interest rates. Krugman has convinced us that the money-managers at the Fed have got rid of their last scruples, if they ever had any. Paraphrasing him, if you really believe that runaway inflation is now a global threat, you should also believe that only policies lying outside of the realm what is conventionally regarded as responsible will contain that threat. One irresponsible monetary policy deserves another.

The contingency plan to prevent a steep rise in interest rates will have to involve a conspiracy between the Fed and the Bank of Japan to punish speculators short-selling the dollar and dollar bonds.

** (see below)There is nothing else left in the Fed's bag of tricks but the check-kiting scheme with the Bank of Japan that could hold back the forces of monetary destruction waiting in the wings. Never mind that it is "conventionally regarded" as irresponsible. Never mind that it is illegal. Never mind that it is criminal.

Nothing else will defer the day of reckoning.

March 21, 2005

Antal E. Fekete
Professor Emeritus
Memorial University of Newfoundland
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*** There is another "tool" available to Greenspan to prick the various "bubbles" and to apply the brakes to an overinflated & overliquified economy.

...and that "tool" is - CRUDE OIL

Rarely do the path's of Geopolitical and Economic Policy cross.

Today they have.

CRUDE OIL has arrived at the crossroads of Geopolitical & Economic opportunity.

Significantly higher Crude Oil Prices will cool the US Economy without creating irreversible systemic cracks in the Bond Market.

Ramping Crude Oil & Gasoline Prices can be used to "prick" vs "collapse" the Housing Bubble...of whose soft vs. hard landing is of significant importantce; given the newfound Wealth Effect that American's are enjoying in thier inflated Home Valuations which has had a rather obvious leveraged impact upon Consumer Sentiment & thus Spending.

China is at a dangerous internal economic and geopolitical crossroads.

Crude Oil is presently fueling it's construction...it can also be used to fuel it's Economic and Political destruction.

When those 2 paths cross...the result is highly predictable.

The NeoCon Geopolitical agenda & US Economic Policy can now be served by the same master.... Oil.