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To: Joe NYC who wrote (217134)2/4/2005 1:02:27 AM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571766
 
>This approach would, while not entirely fair, since it does not touch at all all the retirees on the dole currently, who are making out like bandits, it would IMO be the most viable.

Making out like bandits??? Yeah, they're all driving BMWs because they're getting $750/mo.

-Z



To: Joe NYC who wrote (217134)2/4/2005 10:46:39 AM
From: Taro  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571766
 
Posted on Fri, Feb. 04, 2005




ECONOMY

Experts: Social Security forecast too grim

In warning that Social Security faces a crisis, President Bush assumed the U.S. economy would grow more slowly than usual, and economists think that's too pessimistic.

BY KEVIN G. HALL

khall@krwashington.com

WASHINGTON - President Bush's warning that Social Security faces a looming financial crisis is based on the assumption that the U.S. economy will grow by only 1.8 percent each year, on average, for most of the next 75 years.

Since 1950, the U.S. economy has grown, on average, by 3.5 percent per year.

If the economy continued to grow over the next 50 years at a rate anywhere near the past pace, Social Security wouldn't face a financial crisis, though it would require small adjustments to balance its income and costs. Many economists think that such a healthy rate of economic growth is more likely than not. They warn that Bush is making a case for Social Security restructuring based on improbably pessimistic forecasts about everything from immigration to fertility rates.

By law, Social Security trustees must anticipate the retirement system's financial needs over 75 years. Because so many unpredictable variables could affect the U.S. economy over time, predicting a crisis 50 or 75 years from now is little more than a shot in the dark.

''You can't go out 75 years and try to forecast the economy,'' said Charles Zwick, the former president of Miami's Southeast Bank and a former Harvard economics professor who was budget director in the Johnson administration.

For that reason, he believes Congress and the White House should hesitate before doing anything to Social Security, particularly since the cost of privatizing the program could force Washington to borrow an estimated $2 trillion or more.

''How do you run the economy with the deficits blowing out?'' Zwick said. ``When you don't know what you're doing, you might better wait.''

DISMAL GROWTH

Just eight years ago, Social Security trustees projected that dismal annual economic growth averaging 1.3 percent would create a financial crisis for the system by 2029. At that date, Social Security wouldn't be able to pay full benefits to retirees. Trustees assumed that U.S. economic growth would slow to 2 percent annually between 1998 and 2004, and remain weak afterward.

Instead, the U.S. economy grew by 3 percent annually, on average, in that period. That led trustees to push back their estimated ''crisis'' date -- when Social Security no longer could fully pay retirees -- by 13 years, to 2042.

Fast-forward to 2004. Because short-term growth turned out stronger than they had assumed, last year the system's trustees boosted their long-term forecast. They now assume that annual economic growth from 2015 to 2080 will average 1.8 percent. That's better than 1.3 percent, but still well below what most economists forecast.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, for example, uses slightly more optimistic assumptions on inflation and employment, and as a result estimates that Social Security will be able to pay full benefits to retirees until 2052.

The trustees base their conservative economic forecast on assumptions that employment, average hours worked and productivity -- hourly output per worker -- will show significant downturns in the years ahead. Many economists disagree on each point.

If any assumption is off by just fractions of a percentage point, that results in a miscalculation of how much money will come into the Social Security system from wage taxes. That, in turn, determines whether there will be enough money to pay promised benefits to tomorrow's retirees.

''I think it is more likely that these assumptions are too conservative,'' said Jason Furman, a professor at Harvard University and former economic advisor to President Bill Clinton.

Furman points to fertility rates, an important indicator of the size of the future workforce. While birth rates have fallen in Europe and Asia, they have risen in the United States since 1976 and stabilized at two children per woman. Trustees see fertility rates falling to 1.95 per woman over time. They point to more female workers, high divorce rates and more women marrying later, if at all. They may be right, but the past quarter-century of experience in the United States says they're off a bit.

IMMIGRATION FACTOR

Some economists also question their assumptions about immigration, which affects the size of the workforce. From 1992 to 2002, when the U.S. economy was growing, legal immigration averaged 840,000 people per year. Trustees assume the flow will return to something near the number that entered from 1977 to 1990 -- 580,000 per year. They project that legal immigrants will average 600,000 annually from 2024 through 2080.

But James Glassman, senior economist at JP Morgan Chase in New York, argues that America's experience suggests a different conclusion. Rising immigration, he said, partly explains why the U.S. economy grew by 3.2 percent annually since 1992.

''What we just learned is, if we do well, we are a magnet for workers,'' Glassman said.

Michael Tanner, a Social Security expert at the Cato Institute, a libertarian research center that supports Bush's proposed changes, is persuaded that Social Security's problems are much more severe. Our society is aging, the future workforce probably will be smaller and the economy thus may well be weaker than previous norms, he said, so the president is only prudent in planning for such a future.

Besides, Tanner argued, focusing on economic growth estimates misses a key point: Because people are living longer, they will receive government benefits longer, driving up eventual costs.

''Life expectancy is far more important than economic growth in determining the solvency of the system,'' Tanner said. ``I think they are dramatically underestimating future increases in longevity. People retiring today are less likely to smoke than they were 10 years ago. All these things are going to lead to increases in longevity. And Lord knows what happens if they find a cure for cancer in the next 70 years.''

The Social Security system does face a funding squeeze as baby boomers retire. Wage tax revenues that pay for benefits will fall short beginning in 2018, the trustees say.

Then the system will begin cashing out treasury bonds in its trust fund to pay for benefits, and the government probably will take on more debt to cash out the bonds, swelling federal budget deficits. That, in turn, will put pressure on Congress to cut spending on other federal programs.

''This is a definite problem, but it is manageable,'' said Barry Bosworth, senior economist at the Brookings Institution, a Washington center-left research center.

Herald staff writer Gregg Fields contributed to this report.