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To: Amy J who wrote (217365)	2/4/2005 6:32:06 AM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 1576901

Amy J, In additions to the onew you mentioned, another thing that used to be abused were popular IPOs and share allocations to various poeple, including politicians. Corruption has shifted from minor low level stuff to more top leadership corruption. Now, I would not go that far with my conclusions. A lot of the things you mentioned are too slippery to get any kind of conviction, and if a conviction was possible, there would be DAs or FBI all over. Joe

To: Amy J who wrote (217365)	2/4/2005 7:01:36 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 1576901

Hi Amy, If you spend a bit of time studying the Federal Government at the time of William McKinley's administration, I think you'll be comforted in the sense that, yes, corruption is endemic to the American system, and it has been around for a long, long time. Interestingly enough, while gogos (Good Government) types like me and the Progressives of 100 years ago are and were appalled by the corruption, we do seem to have something of a cyclical nature in American politics. Perhaps we'll have a reform in the next decade or so.... <slow grin> If a few million of the ill-informed people who voted for George Bush in the last election because "he's a moral Christian man" could actually be taught something about who Bush really is, I think we could have a regime change without much difficulty. Some of these Bush voters come to life in a series of daily videos now available at Truthout: truthout.org What is perfectly obvious from Chris Hume's road trip interviews is that Bush's support is a mile wide and an inch deep. His supporters seem to be largely uninformed, disengaged and totally clueless about how evil Bush actually is. What these people need to learn (or be taught by the Democrats) is that Bush is stealing the future of the average American and handing the wealth of the nation over to those who are already the best off members of our society. That sort of populist class-warfare message is the one that the fat-cat Republicans fear the most.

To: Amy J who wrote (217365)	2/4/2005 9:30:14 AM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1576901

"In a nutshell, our govt leaders are corrupt." I've always favored randomly rounding up congresscritters and throwing them in jail, no trial needed. Anyone who has been in office more than a few terms has had "investment opportunities" shall we say. I can only name a couple of ones who ended their terms at about the same economic level as they started. Almost all of them manage to improve their socio-economic status that far exceeds their paychecks.

To: Amy J who wrote (217365)	2/5/2005 11:29:02 AM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576901

>And at least Carter didn't take a $10 million dollar book contract. Even Nixon didn't try to extract millions for himself personally. The Presidents back then weren't so unethical that they used their position to gain money. Carter has recently criticized this when Clinton inappropriately did this. I wouldn't go as far as to say that book deals are corrupt; I mean, heck, if you've lived a remarkable enough life that people would pay to read about it, why shouldn't you make money off of it? -Z