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To: Alighieri who wrote (217470)	2/4/2005 3:30:35 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1576322

"Stop it man...it's not funny" What makes you think he is joking?

To: Alighieri who wrote (217470)	2/4/2005 3:31:25 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576322

I hope they kick our ass out of there. Iraq's Sadr calls for end to US-led troop presence KUFA, Iraq (AFP) - Rebel Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr and Sunni religious leaders urged all political forces in Iraq (news - web sites) to press for an end to the US-led troop presence. At the grand mosque in Kufa, south of Baghdad, the firebrand Sadr sent an envoy to read a message to thousands of worshippers at weekly Friday prayers. "I call on all religious and political powers that pushed towards the elections and took part in them to issue an official statement calling for a timetable for the withdrawal of the occupation forces from Iraq," Sayed Hashim Abu Ragheef told the gathering. Sadr, whose militia battled coalition forces in southern Iraq last year, has been quiet for months about the country's political developments. "I stood aside for the elections and did not stand against them as I did not want to show disobedience toward the Marjaiyah (senior clerics). I did not join these elections so that I wouldn't be one of the West's pawns. "The West is so proud that they have held the elections but I would ask: who is responsible for the blood that day?" he asked. At least 36 people died in attacks on Sunday when Iraqis went to the polls in the first elections since the 2003 US-led invasion to oust Saddam Hussein (news - web sites). Millions of Shiites, who make up about 60 percent of the population, voted after the towering Shiite religious figure, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, indicated that it was their religious duty to do so. Sadr's Mehdi Army militia battled US troops for seven months last year before laying their arms down in October. In the holy Shiite city of Karbala, south of Baghdad, a representative of Sistani said the ayatollah was satisfied with the way the vote was carried out and saw it as a "path to the next phase." "We believe that the road ahead looks promising given the millions that came out on election day," said Sayed Ahmed al-Safi. "The unquestionable reality is that the Iraqi people alone expressed their will and made their voice heard." The Sistani-backed list of the United Iraqi Alliance has maintained a substantial lead after partial vote counting, the election commission said. The assembly will name a new government and draft a constitution that would be put to a national referendum. Safi said that although the list was made up of those who were "oppressed under the previous regime," the Shiites were not looking to do the same if they come to power referring to the Sunnis, who largely boycotted the elections. At the Umm al-Qura mosque in Baghdad, headquarters of the Sunni Committee of Muslim Scholars, worshippers were told that the new government must help to "draft a constitution according to Islamic laws." "Let liberating Iraq from occupation be your slogan and drafting a constitution according to sharia (Islamic law) be your goal," said Sheikh Abdul Ghafur al-Samarrai. At the Abu Hanifa mosque in Baghdad's largely Sunni Adhamiyah district, the sermon avoided any direct mention of the elections but hinted the community, which ruled under Saddam, should wait before pronouncing on the vote. "Maintain your calm and hold your tongues until the right moment to speak arrives," Sheikh Moayad al-Adhami told the faithful. He later said in an interview that all Iraqis must unite to end the US military presence in Iraq. "What is unacceptable, un-Islamic and unpatriotic is for one group to bear the brunt of fighting the occupation, while the other races to please them and rise on their shoulders," said the white-turbaned sheikh.

To: Alighieri who wrote (217470)	2/4/2005 3:43:43 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576322

Of course not.........we are planning to attack Iran. Stop it man...it's not funny. I am not being funny. This is how Iraq started. We are in the early stages. They kept making statements that their intentions against Saddam were not militaristic. Later, it changed to.....he better get in line or we may do something. Then no matter what he did, it was wrong and they attacked. What did you think was going to happen in Bush's second term? That he was going to plant more roses in the WH rose garden? We keep posting here what these people are, but in reality, we don't believe what we are seeing and posting. This country is in big trouble. Its why people are emigrating to Canada and other places in the world. Do you not notice who on this thread bookmarks the posts from us that are inflammatory? Isn't that how they do it in authoritarian gov'ts? Its how they think. And I think there is no stopping it now. Americans have given them too much power. Its not like we didn't have warnings........but everyone is too busy......working, raising the kids, trying to keep up with the bills......and then there is the fear factor. Its too bad. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am. ted