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To: tejek who wrote (217598)2/5/2005 10:27:04 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575354
 
However, the broader issue argued between you and Elroy is whether or not Israel is a democracy.

No, the broader issue is where do Israel's borders exist? And what are Israel's obligations to the people that have lived within those borders for their entire lives?

That's a much more important issue than figuring out how democratic Israel is to Israeli passport holders (a subset of the population).



To: tejek who wrote (217598)2/6/2005 5:19:23 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575354
 
The audit breaks group 2 off from group 3 just above Israel. Israels rank is closer to Italy's (the lowest group 1 country), or even to the average rank of the teir one countries, or to the US than it is to than it is to a number of countries listed in its group.

And all of this neglects to consider the possibility of bias against Israel in the rankings. Even if we assume there is not a drop of bias against Israel we still are confrunted with the fact that there is no clear explination of how the ranks are determined which makes them close to useless.

I do notice that on the same site as your link it lists Israel as among the most free countries

" The Freedom House Annual Survey employs the Political Rights checklist to help determine the degree to which people can participate in the political process of their country. Each country is then rated on a seven-category scale, 1 representing the most free and 7 the least free. These 7 categories are laid out below. To purchase the Annual Survey print edition visit the store.

Israel
2004 Political Rights Score - 1
2003 Political Rights Score - 1

worldaudit.org

Also the Democracy Audit scores are made rather questionable by the fact that they place North Korea ahead of a lot of other countries, ranking 88 out of 149, including for example 28 places ahead of Russia, and only 16 behind India.