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To: Suma who wrote (28712)	2/9/2005 3:48:51 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

"You have to prove to me why you call these LUNATIC Left Wing Sites.." I have in the past as have many, many others with real facts & irrefutable evidence. Why would it be any different now? If you are comfortable reading propaganda that smears & slanders your President with outrageous lies, blatant distortions, intentional deceit, gross misrepresentations & half truths, that surely is your right. "There are just as many sites that could be called LUNATIC Right Wing sites..." That's a pathetic excuse to justify your decision to cling to lunatic left wing propaganda.

To: Suma who wrote (28712)	2/9/2005 4:09:48 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

"You usually document but rarely share why it is you believe so strongly that the Right Wing is the Right way and why you are so loyal to G.W.Bush. You never explain why it is that you think the way you do." There is a very simple explanation for that Suma. I HAVE NEVER EXPRESSED ANY SUCH BELIEFS! I HAVE NEVER EXPRESSED ANYTHING REMOTELY RESEMBLING WHAT YOU STATED AS FACT. NOT ONCE! What I would like to know from you is how you could possibly be so wrong when I have repeatedly posted to you that I do not have any unflinching loyalty to any politician or political party. My posting history also makes it clear I abhor extremist political POV's. Perhaps you could explain to me how you could draw utterly false conclusions like this in the face of a mountain of evidence that proves your assertions so completely wrong. You can't or won't face the hard truth about your bias Suma. And your false assertions about me could not be better proof of how much your bias blinds you.

To: Suma who wrote (28712)	2/9/2005 4:30:01 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

"Why Westera 2 is so far to the right. Why you are a conservative when all the things I know about Conservative are being violated by this President ." What proof exists that I am "so far to the right" Suma? Answer - NONE! ZERO! So where is your proof? Please cite real facts that led you to draw that conclusion. IMO, you are confusing my utter disdain for left wingers who have become completely unhinged - many of whom are top Democratic politicians & high profile MSM journalists, ET AL. And you are like most folks on the far left. You consider yourself to be a "moderate". Anyone with only moderate liberal POV's are conservatives to you. Those with a moderate POV are seen as right wingers. Those with moderate conservative POV's are seen as extremist right wingers. Again, it's all about your inability to come to terms with your extreme bias & your unflinching loyalty to the Democratic party regardless of what they do. One more thing. Could you also provide me with a factually accurate account of the violations that Bush has committed that seem to bother you so much?

To: Suma who wrote (28712)	2/9/2005 4:50:27 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

"You have shared that once you were one of those whom you continually denigrate and yet you have not explained how come you changed... What did that." I did? When? I never ever said I was once a dyed in the wool liberal or even a middle of the road liberal. I have told you more than once that I have voted for democrats throughout my life, from President to dog catcher. I have always voted for politicians whom I believe will best represent me. Why? Because I have no loyalty to any political party or ideology! Never have - never will. I also told you that in the last 10 years I have been pushed further & further away from the democratic party due to their leaving me & what I believe is important. They have changed in ways that now disgust me. I'll reconsider when they rediscover morals & ethics. At least that will be a start. FWIW, it must be pretty bad since my wife, a life long liberal got fed up & changed from a registered democrat to an Independent. She completely lost it in the aftermath of the 2000 election. That was the last straw for her. Al Gore & the democrats actions shocked her into seeing them for what they had become. Is she also a right wing extremist in your book Suma?