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To: RealMuLan who wrote (60233)	2/9/2005 8:22:21 PM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

The indespensable nation comment was stupid and full of hubris. Note that most of the tsunami victims were looking to Europe, Russia, and Latin America.... This reads like some left winger's fantasy. Nations trying to "cut the US down to size" might find something else cut.... ;-)

To: RealMuLan who wrote (60233)	2/10/2005 3:42:22 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Ziwu, Thanks for providing the Michael Lind snippets. While he's generally a decent fellow, he certainly is clueless in this regard: "But that was a different America, led by wise and constructive statesmen like Dean Acheson", Many of us beg to differ. One of the great advances at the end of WW II, the United Nations, was championed largely by Elinor Roosevelt and those might be called her entourage. Acheson was spending way too much time conniving about how to create a National Security State with that haberdasher Harry Truman to be bothered with something like the UN. And the Marshall Plan, perhaps the greatest propaganda tool of the post war era? Acheson didn't have his name of George Marshall's plan, either. Lind may be a fairly good writer, but he's no damn good as a historian. He's more like a court stenographer for the Establishment Democrats.