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To: O'Hara who wrote (38846)	2/11/2005 7:24:52 PM
From: Jamey	Respond to of 39621

Hello, Shalom, It is good to see you in a happier state. As you know, we do not add one moment to our lives by worry. Here is something from the writings of a guy named Bill who I listen to... Running the Whole Show "Most people try to live by self-propulsion. Each person is like an actor who wants to run the whole show and is forever trying to arrange the lights, the scenery, and the rest of the players in his own way. If his arrangements would only stay put, if only people would do as be wished, the show would be great. What usually happens? The show doesn't come off very well. Admitting he may be somewhat at fault, he is sure that other people are more to blame. He becomes angry, indignant, self-pitying. Is he not really a self-seeker even when trying to be useful? Is he not a victim of the delusion that he can wrest satisfaction and happiness out of this world if he only manages well? Eternal Values Many people will have no truck at all with absolute spiritual values. Perfectionists, they say, are either full of conceit because they fancy they have reached some impossible goal, or else they are swamped in self-condemnation because they have not done so. Yet I think that we should not hold this view. It is not the fault of great ideals that they are sometimes misused and so become shallow excuses for guilt, rebellion, and pride. On the contrary, we cannot grow very much unless we constantly try to envision what the eternal spiritual values are. "Day by day, we try to move a little toward God's perfection. So we need not be consumed by maudlin guilt for failure to achieve His likeness and image by Thursday next. Progress is our aim, and His perfection is the beacon, light-years away, that draws us on. The Coming of Faith In my own case, the foundation stone of freedom from fear is that of faith: a faith that, despite all worldly appearances to the contrary, causes me to believe that I live in a universe that makes sense. To me, this means a belief in a Creator who is all power, justice, and love; a God who intends for me a purpose, a meaning, and a destiny to grow, however little and haltingly, toward His own likeness and image. Before the coming of faith I had lived as an alien in a cosmos that too often seemed both hostile and cruel. In it there could be no inner security for me. "When I was driven to my knees by alcohol, I was made ready to ask for the gift of faith. And all was changed. Never again, my pains and problems notwithstanding, would I experience my former desolation. I saw the universe to be lighted by God's love; I was alone no more." From the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous "As Bill Sees It" It doesn't have to be alcohol to drive one to their knees to receive the gift of faith. God uses our hurt and our helplessness to draw us to him. Pain is the touchstone of progress that draws us to Him, His light is like a rainbow that we move toward but ultimately we only find true love and freedom when we cross that great divide when we give up our mortal man and move unhindered to the source of our light, Jesus Christ. God bless you richly. Keep looking at God and I trust that you will find true joy. James

To: O'Hara who wrote (38846)	2/12/2005 11:45:11 AM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Hi again, Shalom, Bet you thought, "Now there goes James giving me advice when I know more about my relationship with God than he could ever imagine. Where does he get off?" Now if you actually thought that than I suspect you are just like me when someone appears to be telling me how it is. It is just human nature for us to resent advice when in actuality, the one giving it is just trying to show his concern like I am you, Mr. Shalom. For one thing, what little you have said since letting me know that you are not dead, which I was really worried about is confusing to me since it is totally out of character for you. Now if you really consider me a friend than you need to post something IN character so that you will not keep me worried that you have gone off the deep end. How about it, friend? Are you going to relieve my concern about you or are is it fun to keep me confused? James

To: O'Hara who wrote (38846)	2/23/2005 9:42:25 PM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Shalom, you said, "I have also come to the conclusion that if this world had only.... the Words of Jesus......and Zero else from the new testament...." This seems to me to be an amazing transformation for one who trusted the full Word of God from beginning to end. The Holy Bible. Why have you abandoned the faith that God once and for all delivered to the Prophets? I cannot imagine anything, even the loss of a loved one, that would make a real Christian depart from their faith. You are very much aware of the admonitions of the Word about one who has once believed and turns from the faith... I ask you to repent from this path, Shalom. If you are only jesting than please publicly admit for Christ's sake that you were not serious about losing your faith in the full word of God. James

To: O'Hara who wrote (38846)	3/13/2005 12:29:17 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

shalom, you want to clam Evil Vermin as one of your own? Then you deserve each other. Message 291692 Seig Heil!