To: RetiredNow who wrote (218879 ) 2/12/2005 2:47:03 PM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574343 Its liabilities don't exceed its assets. According to Snow, more money is coming in than going out. That will change in 2042 and not before. Wrong. It happens in 2018. And SS was set up by the founders to be self-sustaining. Unfortunately, it was flawed. So we need to fix it. Snow said 2042. And btw, if a subsidiary of a company is not making money, the subsidiary can and sometimes does go through bankruptcy. Has to be more than a subsidiary..........has to be a stand alone division not tied to the main company such as Audi and Volkswagen. Volkswagen is the parent; Audi is a stand alone entity. However, the example we were discussing......GE......the subsidiaries are tied directly to the parent. You know, tejek. I have some analysts on my team. I give them problems to solve. If I give them a problem related to manufacturing and they come back to me and say that HR is so screwed up they can't fix manufacturing, I think I'd fire them. Yeah, I can see you are real open to alternatives. In fact, you're fired. I think you are incapable of being solution oriented. We're discussing SS and you tell us the military spends too much. You are a true liberal. Sometimes, to get your point across you need to make an analogous one that hits closer to home; hence the defense analogy. The truth is there will a be future deficit in SS for a few years..........the right doesn't like SS.....so they are using this future problem as the excuse to overhaul SS and making it more to their liking......a cure that may end up killing SS...........an eventuality that would not disappoint the right. So, MM, fire me all you want but I am still a citizen and I do not plan on acquiescing to your demands. ted