To: NOW who wrote (26341 ) 2/12/2005 12:19:04 AM From: GraceZ Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 110194 The evidence is as I have said, sadly lacking or quite weak for many of these interventions. Because we spend more time studying disease and not much time studying what constitutes health. If a person engages in a healthy lifestyle and avoids all these various conditions, how do we attribute their health to the lifestyle when it could be just great genetics? Many of those conditions I mentioned can't be treated after they appear with the various non-pharmacological measures I mentioned. If your type II is advanced, its too late, you are on insulin. Same with the asthma meds, once you are on that inhaler you'd better have it with you.Very few doctors get paid to keep people healthy. Why should they? Do doctors in other countries get paid to nag people to exercise? This is something people should be willing to take onto themselves. It is not as though knowledge about the benefits of proper nutrition and exercise is difficult to come by anywhere in the US. There is a large amount of disagreement but each person has an abundance of expert knowledge to choose from. In fact, most know these things they just refuse to implement them. Like the doctors who are themselves engaged in unhealthy lifestyles, they smoke, drink, do drugs or eat a high fat diet, they know the risks better than anyone, yet they still engage. Somehow I doubt switching to a single payer system changes that. Its a personal responsibility thing, a willingness to be responsible to hold up your end of being a "good animal". The thing that really convinces me that it isn't just private vs. public is that vet care is so good in this country. I can tell you that most people would complain bitterly about a trip to the ER, but they feel very well taken care of when they take the dog or cat to the vet. The vet is a capitalist, they might be a die hard animal lover but they are profit seeking.