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To: stockman_scott who wrote (158038)	2/14/2005 9:55:02 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

________________________ The Sharansky Fallacy by Justin Raimondo "On Meet the Press Sunday morning, Natan Sharansky had his head handed to him by Pat Buchanan, a sight both instructive and inspiring to behold. " I dont think i watched the same show as your here Raimondo. Sharansky and Buchanan jousted to a draw. Sharansky maybe a bit overexhuberant but not at all blind to realism and Pat of course advocating the more nativist, so-called realist, anti-Israel, state department version of middle east policy. It was great TV, nothing more and nothing less.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (158038)	2/14/2005 5:19:38 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The elections were a big mistake. Brent Scowcroft is right that they could plunge the nation into a civil war: not just Shi'ite versus Sunnis, but a three-sided struggle also involving the Kurds The new "progressive" position: anti-democracy. The Iraqi political landscape resembles Israeli politics in the sense that the electorate is severely fragmented along religious as well as ethnic and ideological lines: not only that, but in Iraq the divisions are exacerbated by the structure of the "interim" constitution, which will no doubt come in for some sharp challenges by the Shi'ite parties Is resembling Israeli politics supposed to be an example so horrible that all who see it shudder? Israel is the only functioning democracy in the Middle East! Fractious they may be, but governments are voted in, and they come, and they are voted out, and they go. Name another Middle Eastern country with that experience. If Iraqi politics manage to resemble another Israel, they will have succeeded! Of course, this is precisely what Raimondo fears the most. Successful Iraqis.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (158038)	2/14/2005 5:47:16 PM
From: Suma	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I was reading the posts on Politics for Pros.. Nothing was said of Buchanan. Only Shharansky got the rave reviews for his wonderful book on the CASE FOR DEMOCRACY. If I were reading just that thread, had not seen the TV program I would have been completely ignorant of what really occurred, not only hearing one side of the content but believing that Sharansky's is just the greatest thing going. BIASES ?

To: stockman_scott who wrote (158038)	2/15/2005 1:36:44 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi stockman_scott; Re: "Noting the Israeli legislator's enthusiasm for capital-D Democracy as a panacea, Pat wondered if that applied to the Gaza Strip: "If you believe in democracy that much, would you allow the fate of the settlers in Gaza to be decided by all the people of Gaza? Let them vote on whether the settlers should stay or go." For a moment, the flow of words from the usually glib Sharansky ceased gushing, and the look on his face – that of a confidence trickster who's been caught out – was priceless." That is priceless. -- Carl