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To: michael97123 who wrote (158108)	2/16/2005 9:24:12 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

On the heals of the announcement of a syria/iran common front, we have this. Bashir's last gambit perhaps? If it was the israelis, the attack would be massive and already known. Wondering outloud if there are elements of iranian military that may be involved in this? Anyone have an idea on how loyal iranian military is supposed to be? MSNBCIran TV: Explosion may have been accidental Plane may have dropped fuel tank; earlier reports suggested attackBREAKING NEWS MSNBC News Services Updated: 9:18 a.m. ET Feb. 16, 2005TEHRAN, Iran - Iranian state television said Wednesday an explosion near Deilam may have been caused by a fuel tank dropping from an Iranian airplane in the region. Iranian TV had earlier reported an explosion and the shooting off of anti-aircraft fire in the region of an Iranian nuclear facility. "A powerful explosion was heard this morning on the outskirts of Deilam in the Bushehr province. Witnesses said that the missile was fired from an unknown plane 12 miles from the city," Iran's Arabic language Al-Alam said, according to Reuters. A spokesman for Iran's Interior Ministry said Wednesday that he could not confirm the television reports. "We cannot confirm the reports at this point. We are checking," said the Interior Ministry spokesman, Jahanbakhsh Khanjani. Meantime, Reuters reported an Israeli security source, who denied any Israeli involvement in the reported explosion. Iran's Russian-built 1,000-megawatt nuclear reactor, its only nuclear power plant, is due to start operating in Bushehr province in late 2005.

To: michael97123 who wrote (158108)	2/16/2005 2:08:12 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Mike, re: Another worry i have buys into opposition to the war but it just may be reality at this point. How do we leave if the triangle is not pacified. At the time we pull out if the terrorists are strong enough to make a run at controlling the triangle they then become the new quaeda (base) for attacks on the West. I dont think at this point while this territory is being contested this is the case, but unless we hang around long enough for the good iraqis to at least have a chance of pacifying the triangle, we may be making a mistake of monumental proportions if we leave to early. I think we have to be careful in how we pose these questions. The underlying assumption built into your question is that if we stay we can give "the good iraqis to at least have a chance of pacifying the triangle." That's the oft repeated mantra of the hawks and in my opinion that assumption is simply wrong. If it's to be a civil war then it will be a civil war. If the Iraqis don't have the resolve to address their differences with the rebels in the triangle then the triangle will continue to be a place where anti-Shiite and anti American forces are welcomed. The only thing we offer is a rallying cry for the rebels or a mercenary force to reduce the place to rubble-remember the fiasco in Fallujah? Question everything. Ed