To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (29416 ) 2/17/2005 5:57:23 PM From: The Philosopher Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 90947 I think he's in agreement with us though it took a while to hash things out Well, maybe not in complete agreement. But not nearly as much disagreement as people think. This engendered far more visceral reactions than, frankly, I had expected. (Including, I might add, from you initially, and I give you great credit for pulling back from that and being willing to look at my position rationally.) I think we are all agreed on several points. 1. MKL committed a crime for which she deserved to pay and did pay. 2. The laws against what she did exist because most (some might say all, but everybody would agree with most at a minimum) 12 year olds would suffer significant damage from participating in such a relationship whether they freely chose to or not (assuming the choice could in fact be free where it involved a student-teacher relationship). Where I'm not sure others will agree with me is that I don't htink any of us know for a fact whether this particular young man was in fact significantly damaged by his participation in this relationship. But that's a position I'm taking because I believe it is simply true. I'm also not sure whether others will agree with the position I took that now that these two are both legal adults, and she has paid her debt to society, they should be allowed to go ahead and marry if they want to without everybody at this point jumping down their throats. I frankly think it's a mistake on his part, and I don't give the marriage much chance of long term success, but he's an adult and entitled to make a mistake in his choice of spouse if he wants to -- heck, he won't be the only man to make that same mistake this year! (If he were, a divorce lawyer I would be out of business!)