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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Suma who wrote (4480)	2/18/2005 10:05:25 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 36917

It will help to open your eyes and see the truth about what Kyoto really is.

To: Suma who wrote (4480)	2/19/2005 9:38:55 AM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

The truth about Kyoto As the United States rejected the Kyoto Protocol, it is very important to consider some of the reasons why ("Kyoto crunch," Business, Wednesday). In this land of freedom, scientists are able to speak their minds. Certainly, scientists can be bought, but the hallmark of oppressive regimes is the lack of intellectual freedom. The state controls scientists and what they say so that it will conform to its plan. Independently and without remuneration, thousands of scientists in the United States have joined together to support a petition against the Kyoto treaty. (In court, a paid expert witness is always less trusted than an unpaid one.) The petition reads as follows: "We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan, in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing, or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth." To view the names of the more than 17,000 signers, the vast majority of whom have been verified along with their degrees, as well as the science behind their claim, visit www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm. DIRK AVERY Ellicott City, Md.

To: Suma who wrote (4480)	2/20/2005 4:14:32 PM
From: Skywatcher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

Mexico Reports Fewer Monarch Butterflies From Times Staff and Wire Reports The Mexican government said that 75% fewer Monarch butterflies had appeared at the wintering grounds in the country. The Mexican government blamed the decline on a number of factors, including an unusually cold summer in the U.S. and a high mortality rate for the butterflies in Mexico in 2003 because of cold, wet conditions. The report also attributed the decline — although without any supporting evidence — to intensive farming practices in the U.S., including the use of genetically modified crops.