To: Skywatcher who wrote (47850 ) 2/19/2005 4:12:33 AM From: IQBAL LATIF Respond to of 50167 Yes, he is not elected like, like many strategists on both sides of the aisle mostly are unelected intellectual political techies, remember some other unelected George Stephanopoulos or Bruce R. Lindsey and Sidney Blumenthal during Clinton era, and other unelected Bob Shrum John Kerry's closest adviser known as "The Curse" referring to Shrum's career-long slump in presidential campaigns, a well-catalogued losing streak that runs from George McGovern to Al Gore. I am sympathetic with Shrum your leadership from McGovern to Kerry was unelectable he was given very hard agenda to sell; his only problem is that rainbow coalitions cannot overtake mainstream realism. He should be good enough to write an agenda for change instead they elect Dean as the leader. On the other side of the spectrum sits Karl Rove who listens to the heart beat of mainstream America Shrum although your new liberal trinity of Kerry/Dean/Kennedy leadership remains insulated to that beat, therefore elections will really never matter for you guys and any way what elections! 'Elections' do you really care? As far as they do not meet the test of 'liberalism' and 'total victory' for your guys, results are immaterial you are anaemic to all elections results, Bush results are bad so is the voice of 59 million Americans, so are the Iraqi elections, you identify ‘extreme tyranny’ in shape of secular government preferable over decades of disenfranchisement of 14 million Iraqis. Elixir that we call ‘elections’ at least what I have made of your posts has not helped your denial of seeing Bush as a legitimate President, so even if Karl Rove was elected you would as dismissive as you are now, however Karl Rove talks of his boss in very high terms look at this unelected officer and what he had to say about your liberal leader when he left him:: 'The Clinton I know is a complicated man responding to the pressures and pleasures of public life in ways I found both awesome and appalling,' George Stephanopoulos writes in his new book, All Too Human. He worked for Mr Clinton from 1991 - in the run-up to the 1992 elections that took the Arkansas politician to the White House - until 1996, first as spin doctor and later as a senior White House policy adviser.'I have come to see how his shamelessness is a key to his political success,' the former aide writes, 'how his capacity for denial is tied to the optimism that is his greatest political strength. For every reckless and expedient act, there are others of leadership and vision.' Asked in an interview in the latest issue of Newsweek magazine whether he would have worked for Mr Clinton if he had known then what he knows now, Mr Stephanopoulos replies: 'Of course I wouldn't.' He then adds that Mr Clinton is 'too fit to be removed from office', but that 'knowing what we know now, I don't think he'd be fit enough to be elected'.