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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (6988)	2/20/2005 11:34:27 AM
From: loantech	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 18308

< Yeah Tom, That effing Church and those priests have a lot mines going strong in production and are extracting night and day ... raping the land as they go...> In line with past LatCrit objectives regarding the relationship between our Latina/o communities and religion,4 this Essay considers 1 “Gold, then, and souls, were the objective of the vanguard of conquerors. Gold for the chests of their majesties, and for their private pockets; souls of the flock of His Holy See and the Mother Church.” ERNESTO GALARZA, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AS A FACTOR IN THE POLITICAL AND SOCIAL HISTORY OF MEXICO 17 (1928). Not unlike the conquest of Mexico antigua, Hispanic conquerors sought dominion and control of the California region for its natural resources, labor, access to the souls of the Indigenous population and its territorial land base. For case law reference involving the search for gold and silver and a contested mine encompassing all three periods of the conquest of the region see United States v. Castillero, 67 U.S.(2 Black) 17 (1862). law.ucdavis.edu Here ya go spotted and do a search and there is a lot more. Conquistadors were after more than soul conversion.

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (6988)	2/20/2005 11:43:58 AM
From: loantech	Respond to of 18308

Speaking of rape: In a number of instances, soldiers physically harmed the neophytes, and accounts of soldiers raping Native women in some missions is well-documented in historical investigations.54 This relationship caused some to assert that the Spaniards offered the neophytes the “crucifix or the lance,” leaving them, in the words of an Indian leader, “no room to choose between Christ and death.”55 While not all Native Californians experienced conversion and displacement, this Christianity nonetheless also extended beyond mission infrastructures by its effect on tribal society and gender relations.56 Bringing new meaning to attendanceThrough attendance at religious services, the friars required the neophytes to learn new forms of worship and spirituality. Soldiers with bayonets guarding entryways disallowed the escape of converts from Church rituals. Bailiffs, using whips, canes, and goads “to preserve silence and maintain order law.ucdavis.edu

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (6988)	2/20/2005 11:47:44 AM
From: loantech	Respond to of 18308

Spanish explorers came in search of strategic ports and the mythical gold of El Dorado. Real attempts at colonization began 1769. One Spanish soldier declared: For Glory, God, and Gold. We came here to serve God, but also to get rich. The Spanish established missions, pueblos and presidios. The missions took over Indian lands, and introduced European practices of agriculture and ranching. The Spanish priests compelled the "neophyte" Indians to convert to Catholicism. Father Francisco Palou stated: We rejoiced to find so many pagans upon whom the light of our holy faith was about to dawn museumca.org

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (6988)	2/20/2005 11:54:59 AM
From: loantech	Respond to of 18308

When the discovery of the Antilles revealed the existence of gold, Spain neglected the East, and turned her eyes to the West. The fever for gold seized all who could emigrate, and the desire for gold and silver became a powerful incentive to seek and grasp the wealth of the New World. The thirst for gold was neither more or less intense in the sixteenth century than it is now, but it was directed to much vaster regions. Furthermore, the precious metals were found among people to whom they were of no commercial value, much less standards of wealth. To deprive the Indian of gold and silver was, to him, a much less serious matter than to deprive him of his gathered maize or any other staple food. The earliest periods of Spanish colonization were spent in attempts to establish a modus vivendi with the aborigines and, like all epochs of that kind, proved disastrous to the weaker--namely, to the Indian. newadvent.org Gotta love the ways of the convertors.