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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (58093)2/21/2005 5:30:11 PM
From: lorneRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
chinu. I asked you if any religion was involved in the atrocities ongoing in the Sudan and sort of suggested the islam may be involved and here is your reply.

you said..."The Rwandan tribe (Hutus) are just pure uncivilized tribes who loot and rampage rival tribes. Africa still lives in the world of tribal rivalry. Includes Sudan too. Nothing with religion. We should not attempt to make it more than it is."....

To say look how bad these other peoples are as a defence for islam is stretching it a bit don't you think?

You say it has nothing to do with the islam organized religion.

I know how much you like and defend islam no matter what this religion may be responsible for but it is time to wake and face facts.

Do Hutu's behead, stone to death, cut off hands and feet of people for religious reasons? do Hutu's behead innocent people for shock, terror and media value?

HERE. >>>

....."When Omar Hassan al-Bashir and his fellow Islamist officers seized power on June 30, 1989, they founded the People`s Defense Force (PDF) of some 150,000 conscripts to protect the 30 June Revolution and to suppress the rebellion in the South, essentially replacing the army as the instrument to enforce the Islamization of the Sudan.".....

....."More subtle but equally divisive to any settlement on this frontier of Islam was the determination by the revolutionary regime in Khartoum to impose its Islamist ideology on all Sudanese and Arab culture, language, and militant Islam as the foundation of Sudanese society--when less than half the Sudanese claim Arab origins and another third are non-Muslims. The Arabo-centric enthusiasm of Bashir and his National Islamic Front (now the National Congress) government reopened old and deep wounds in Sudanese society. The injection of an Islamist ideological and racist definition as to who is "Arab" and who is zuruq, black, or the more pejorative epithet abid, slave, to distinguish between Arab and African has generated a devastating tragedy that justifies killing, rape, and enslavement of these marginalized people by a cynical and dysfunction government in denial."......
splmtoday.com



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (58093)2/21/2005 5:35:51 PM
From: lorneRespond to of 81568
 
chinu. And this. There is lots of information out there on whatever role islam may have in the atrocities in the Sudan. You need only open your eyes and mind.

HERE >>>

Rape, Islam, and Darfur’s Women Refugees and War-Displaced.

...."As you have raped me, please don’t leave me alive… kill me with your gun” begged Almina to her rapist. “May shame kill you” was the reply of the Janjaweed militiaman who raped her on July 4th.".....

In order to keep the Sudanese Liberation Army and the Justice Equality Movement from controlling any territory in the Darfur region, the Islamic government in Khartoum has employed a campaign of terror in which Muslim women from Darfur are victims of rape conducted and directed by Muslim men from the Arabic nomadic tribes known as the Janjaweed.

Rape is a dominant characteristic of the humanitarian crisis in Darfur. While in the 1994 Rwandan genocide a raped woman was more often than not killed, in Darfur in 90 % of the rape cases the rapists have kept the women alive and sent them back to their community.

This strategy of rape as a weapon of war and social control is having a profound effect on the conception of the meaning of being Muslim for the people of Darfur. A distinction is being drawn between the Islam lived out in Darfur and that promulgated by the Khartoum government. Abnan and Al Tahir, two women from Darfur who have been raped had this to say: “A minority in power uses both Islam and Arabism to blindfold the whole society, to silence any political opposition or arrest human rights activists. On the contrary, in Darfur the ordinary people see Islam through a different lens. It’s for them a religion with its true meaning. It’s a religion and not a political tool. This is how you can understand how a Janjaweed Muslim can be told by Khartoum to rape a Muslim woman and her young girl regardless of Islam... and they too can do it…Muslims in Khartoum have corrupted Islam.”........
refugeesinternational.org