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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jlallen who wrote (37941)	2/21/2005 10:01:36 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

Whoa! You be jumping to conclusions with your below comment: >>>What's funnier than the above is seeing the same hypocrites who refused to ackowledge Clinton's guilt, many even after DNA confirmed, are now ready to condemn an individual on mere unproven allegations.<<< Myself, and others who believe similarly, were not in denial over whether or not Clinton propagated a sexual act or that he lied as a consequence. Most of us, if not all of us at that time, agreed that it'd make sense that he'd lie over sex--this given virtually everyone has or will. Consider also that Hillary didn't do anything, but you guys were all over her. In fact, you still are! The problem in the Clinton affair is simply that the GOPwingers, for political exploitation, made a mountain out of a molehill.

To: jlallen who wrote (37941)	2/21/2005 10:11:38 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Consider the below excerpt: >>>If the testimony of CIA chief Porter Goss and the director of defense intelligence, Vice Adm. Lowell E. Jacoby, is accurate, we are less secure today than before we invaded Iraq. "Islamic extremists are exploiting the Iraqi conflict to recruit new anti-U.S. jihadists," Goss told the Senate Intelligence Committee last week.<<< lewrockwell.com Now search back in your honest mind's eye, your memory, and recall the words of those of us posting on the DON'T START THE WAR thread. Now, I know you were there front and center, posting near-continuously on the pro-war side. Is your memory today as good as was your appearance there then? Do you recall those of us predicting then precisely what Jacoby and Goss just informed the committee? I belive you kept responding to our concerns with something like: [paraphrase] No problem, Bush will fix it. Today, the US puppet is not leading Iraq's government; the US contracting windfall became only a quick hit 'take' for certain of Bush's contracting insiders; the future of the oil is uncertain instead of certain (unless the US military remains); Iraq, as we predicted, has become like Israel has been for the past four decades; the US has lost considerable standing in the world amongst its allies; and an Islamic theocratic Iraqi government is about to take hold and one which very likely could align--if not completely enjoin--with Iran, thus, given the tremendous oil resources, making a new Iran an extremely powerful force not just in the region, but in the world. ... and worse than all of the above? America's sons and daughters are caught in a death and maiming spiral and ca. 100,000 Iraqis have, one way or another, been killed, many more than that maimed and wounded and so very many Iraqi families uprooted and decimated and psychologically destroyed--this together with America pouring money desperately needed here at home down an Iraqi drainpipe. Please, JLA, inform us how comfortable you are about all of the above.