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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (60509)	2/23/2005 2:31:38 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<“America”, after all, is shorthand for many other terms: Hollywood, a source of investment, a place to go to study, a land of economic opportunity ... > Quite right Mary. I look on USA people as my employees, who carry out economic activities for me, enforce protection of those economic interests, invent technologies to sell for me, and who hire people around the world to help. I'm appreciative of their efforts. They do a good job. They send me regular dividends. I pay them well. Right now, we are working on re-colonizing China and North Korea. The North Koreans and China are being a bit naughty though - the North getting threatening with nuclear weapons and China wanting to conquer Taiwan and enlarge their empire in a greater East Asia co-prosperity sphere of one country, several systems. Russia is going on manoeuvres with China to help in the process. They should all just buy Globalstar and terrestrial CDMA cyberphones and live happily ever after in peace, light, harmony, happiness, health, prosperity, longevity, fun and love. One would think the hideous outcomes of the first half of the 20th century would have been enough for Russia and China to realize that military belligerence isn't the way to peace, light, harmony ... etc... [unless defeated like Japan and Germany in which case the survivors might enjoy a better lifestyle, but the cost is grotesquely high and a more direct root to Utopia is better]. Saddam was a militaristic belligerent thug. Hopefully the outcome for him, his family, and profiteering tribe will be a reminder to the East Asian megalomaniacs that playing nice is better than pulling a gun. Mqurice

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (60509)	2/23/2005 11:09:49 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

America instead of doing business to cut their deficit is playing for the local crowds the world policeman. <<Germany's exports to Iran rose 30 percent to 3 billion euros (about 3.9 billion US dollars), according to the data released by the German Chamber of Industry and Trade. "Without the nuclear program dispute, the scale would be larger," said Jochen Clausnitzer, the Middle East expert of the chamber>> I don't think Germans are going to hurt the hand that are feeding them. mainly now that they need to export like hell! why Germany opposes to using force against Iran Germany stands firmly against a military strike on Iran despite Washington's recent military threat against the Middle East country. US President George W. Bush said on Jan. 17 that he could not rule out military action against Iran if Iran was not more forthcoming about its suspected nuclear program. US Secretary of State-designate Condoleezza Rice later also threatened to submit Iran's nuclear case to the UN Security Council. As one of the "Big Three" in the European Union (EU), namely Germany, France and Britain, that have negotiated with Iran on behalf of the EU, Germany is opposed to Washington's hardline. German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder said Monday that the efforts to find a political solution must continue and "it should not come to military intervention." Germany's stance has been consistent and without surprise as it conforms to the interests of Germany. Germany and most of its EU allies worry that military strikes on Iran will cause chaos in the oil-rich Gulf region and consequently harm Europe's security and stability. What has happened in Iraq, one of Iran's neighbors, has deepened Germany's worries. Nearly two years have passed since the US-led coalition forces started the military operation in Iraq, the security situation in Iraq has shown no signs of improvement. With more than 1,100 US soldiers killed, frequent explosions, kidnappings of foreigners and violence between coalition forces and local people, Washington's efforts to reestablish order and security in the Arab country have failed to bring about satisfactory results. If Iraq's story is re-told in Iran, Europe's stability and security may be affected by such consequences as illegal immigration, dirty bombs and shaky oil prices, all of which Germany is unwilling to see. Also, as a major EU power which prefers multilateralism to unilateralism, Germany hopes its peaceful efforts to resolve the Iran nuclear issue will improve its international status, said analysts here. And conflicts and turmoil will harm the growing economic and trade ties between Germany and Iran. In the first 10 months of 2004, Germany's exports to Iran rose 30 percent to 3 billion euros (about 3.9 billion US dollars), according to the data released by the German Chamber of Industry and Trade. "Without the nuclear program dispute, the scale would be larger," said Jochen Clausnitzer, the Middle East expert of the chamber. German companies such as Siemens, Man and the Post have large engagements in several commercial projects in Iran, said German daily Financial Times Deutschland. They will not withdraw despite growing military threat from the United States and many other joint projects are under negotiations, said the paper. english.people.com.cn