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To: rrufff who wrote (90971)2/23/2005 12:44:00 PM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Third Parties tend to be the companies IR, they also could be recivists, criminals, conmen, terrorist or a company insider.

They need to create volume. Volume to to a deal, sell stock or get pipe investor out of the stock.

It is never good for shareholders. Steve Reid and Kos used third party disclaimer. I pressed Reid by email and he finally admitted to me that Ziasun's IR was the third party. Trouble was Ziasun had three IR's at the time. Geoffrey Eiten, Madison & Wall Worldwide and Veritas. I pressed him further and he ran off scared refusing to disclose which one was the third party. Third Party is also a violation of SEC disclosure laws but SEC refuses to enforce the rules.

Here is Reid basicly explaining how the scam works:

Steve Reid, editor of the Moebius Free Financial
N e w s l e t t e r, says that services like his are "no different from
a brokerage firm's. The brokers won't help you unless
y o u 're a corporate finance client." Reid specializes in e-mail
distribution and claims to have access to 200 million names
on a global scale. His research is mainly information-based,
poured into the market on a fee structure with discounts
based on size of order. Costs to saturate the market can run
over $1 million. Reid also creates streaming videos for on-
line distribution. Most of his clients are trying to ra i s e
m o n e y, he says. "Much of what we do is create liquidity."



To: rrufff who wrote (90971)2/23/2005 11:38:16 PM
From: Janice Shell  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
That's been going on forever.

s it a trend that 3d parties compensate touts?

A promoter working for the company is the middleman. He gets a lump sum of shares (which the company will have to disclose in its SEC filings, assuming they file), and then he'll keep some for himself and distribute the rest to "third parties". That way, the company doesn't have to disclose just how many touts they're using.