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To: russwinter who wrote (27113)2/24/2005 10:48:11 AM
From: stevenallen  Respond to of 110194
 
Two Economists Walk in a Bar ...

AHEAD OF THE TAPE
By JUSTIN LAHART
February 24, 2005; Page C1

Banjo players and economists are probably the butt of more jokes
than they deserve.

It's not true, for instance, that the difference between a banjo and
a Harley-Davidson is that you can tune a Harley -- it's just that
for a banjo it's much more difficult. And it's not always true that
if you put a question to two economists you'll get three opinions.
Ask them where long-term interest rates are headed over the next
year, and it's likely they'll both say up.

Unfortunately that response may not invalidate all the jokes about
economists getting things wrong.

In The Wall Street Journal's February economic-forecasting survey,
52 of 56 economists thought that the yield on the 10-year Treasury
note would be higher at the end of the year than the current 4.27%.
The average forecast called for a year-end yield of about 5%.

But those predictions of a selloff in the bond market suggest that a
selloff isn't likely to occur, says Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein
strategist James Montier.

Using quarterly forecasts compiled by the Philadelphia Fed, Mr.
Montier found that, over the past dozen years, whenever economists
have predicted that 10-year yields would rise in the following 12
months, they have ended up being right only 45% of the time. Quarter-
ahead forecasts for rising bond yields are even less accurate --
they're right only 22% of the time.

The economists' big problem is that unlike, say, the job
environment, long-term Treasury yields -- while influenced by what's
going on in the economy and at the Fed -- are set by the bond
market. When all the economists think the same thing about
Treasurys, it's a good bet that everybody else does, too. That
certainly seems to be the case now, with surveys showing that
portfolio managers widely expect a rise in long-term interest rates.
As with any other market, with so many people so bearish on
Treasurys, it may take a lot of bad news to force a deep-enough drop
to raise yields substantially.

"Pretty much everybody has this hatred of the bond market," says
Merrill Lynch economist David Rosenberg, one of the handful of
economists who doesn't think that 10-year yields will close out the
year higher. "You start to wonder who's left to sell."



To: russwinter who wrote (27113)2/24/2005 11:27:14 AM
From: John Vosilla  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
Russ is DROOY going under? Down 45% today on incredible volume. Might be a good scalp.



To: russwinter who wrote (27113)2/25/2005 12:22:34 AM
From: regli  Respond to of 110194
 
Russ, sorry I only got my eyes on this snip not the whole thing. I thought it was worthwhile posting.