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To: Brumar89 who wrote (96668)	2/27/2005 8:12:56 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Afghanistan is a mess, and Iraq may end up much more dangerous for the US than it ever was under Saddam. WE've spent billions, and as far as I can see the results are not impressive, and the future does not look bright (for the US it does not look bright- if we wanted an Islamic theocracy I'd say the prospects were somewhat brighter). Your "facts" are spin spin spin. "Liberation" was really "invasion". "Bush bashers"- people who have a problem with the Bush ideology. The fall of the Berlin wall was not, imo, all that great for the US. It was better, imo, to have one monolithic enemy, that also kept a lid on things in the Balkans and the ME, then to have to whole thing wide open and destabilized, as it is now. Why? Because then we had detente, and occasionally a localized proxy war. Now we have power vacuums everywhere. We live in a much more dangerous world- and we can thank Reagan and Bush for it. Granted, the USSR would have collapsed anyway, eventually, but it was silly to hasten its demise in any way, or to hope for its fall (If you put the interests of the US first).

To: Brumar89 who wrote (96668)	2/27/2005 8:20:22 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

SO, Mr. Peabody, let's get in the Way Back machine and see why did they have a theocracy in Afghanistan. Ever hear of the Mujahadeen and the CIA's relationship with them? Reagan called them "freedom fighters". Maybe they were fighting for "freedom to oppress women and non-Muslims". Ask any Afghan widow how free they are to starve. Quite free, it would seem. Iraq? They were our buddies, gassing the Iranians while we supplied them weapons. Ever see Rummy shaking Saddam's hand. Hard to make that picture go away, isn't it? eightface.com You actually believe the manufactured clap-trap that is provided to you? That is sad for both the truth (if such a thing even exists any more) and our democracy!