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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (673601)2/28/2005 2:43:29 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
(Wouldn't that mean that 'most conservatives' aren't conservative?) LOL :)

Obviously.

Perhaps you need some other label to hang your hat on, then?

Nope -- “leftists” works just fine.

I think that you are off on your numbers, though. I'd be willing to venture that there are perhaps camps of roughly equal size calling themselves 'conservatives'... (A Big Government / Small Goivernment split.)

If that were true, we’d very likely see far more of a civil war amongst so-called “conservatives” than we see currently. That war does not exist, and what little friction that does exist is centered on other issues. There are big government “conservatives” who, for example, think the Department of Education ought to spend more time on the three R’s and less on other issues. There are even bigger government “conservatives”, Christie Whitman types, who think the Department needs to spend more time and money on evolution (they call this “science”) and sex education. True conservatives would demand the elimination of the Department altogether. The same dynamic is in effect on a variety of issues, including immigration and taxes. Real conservatives exist, but they are so outnumbered by leftists (i.e. “typical conservatives”, “Libertarians” and “flaming liberals”) that they don’t have much of a voice in America.

I should say that some conservative leftists at times do express truly conservative views on some issues; but they are obviously not being guided by a central philosophy that leads them to express soundly conservative views generally. They are so much guided by flawed notions of “pragmatism,” they readily compromise the essential principle that under girds what they claim to believe. In the end, they become garden-variety leftists who go by other names. This describes the Libertarian Party and is why that party has no problem at all being a vulture at the rotting corpse of the GOP.