To: SirWalterRalegh who wrote (102681 ) 3/1/2005 1:51:59 AM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794009 <Chances are we will come to your (NZ and Aus) rescue at some point in the future > Oh Rick, hold the old sanctimonious cliches. So far, NZ has come to the rescue of the USA [albeit in a small way] - war against Japan, war against Adolf, war against Ho Chi Minh, war against Mullah Omar and Osama. NEVER has the USA come to the rescue of NZ. I will NOT be holding my breath. Mutual baiting aside, it's more a matter of teamwork for mutual self-interest rather than one coming to the aid of the other. Both are interested in the principles of "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill. We all have our achievements. Mostly they are to serve our own interests, even if indirectly. That's what the USA does too - is that really a surprise to you? While my father was in the Middle East fighting Rommel and the Third Reich, King George II's granddad was trading with the enemy. Thanks for the help mate. Mqurice PS: In case you think of Japan and how the USA saved our bacon, you should recall that it was only AFTER the Pearl Harbour attack that the USA figured out that WWII was for real and letting freedom ring, reign and burn around the world might not be such a bad idea and might even be worth fighting for. The USA wasn't out to save NZ, Oz etc, it was to put paid to Japan's Greater Co-Prosperity Sphere and the intention of taking over a good chunk of the Pacific, which would NOT have been particularly good for the USA or anyone else for that matter. Ironically, it might have been better than Mao's Maelstrom in which millions died and the subsequent decades of impoverishment, and Vietnam might have surrendered to Japan with far fewer casualties than were suffered during the resistance against the USA. But that's hopelessly hypothetical.