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To: RetiredNow who wrote (221235)	2/28/2005 10:06:41 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573219

mindmeld, Re: If you think we are failing in the Middle East, then you are ignoring the evidence Such as this? chinadaily.com.cn Or perhaps such as this? freep.com Of course, you can tell me that anyone can say anything with statistics, and this is true. However, we have certain facts that are perfectly clear. On May 1, 2003 George Bush infamously announced "Mission Accomplished" aboard the USS Lincoln. At that date fewer than 200 U.S. military personnel had been killed in action in Iraq. Today, that number is just under 1,500, with the number of mercenaries, contractors and soldier-of-fortune a closely guarded secret of the Department of War-mongering. I think I can see a trend here. I believe there is evidence of it. What I cannot see is how you can delude yourself into thinking that democracy in the Middle East has anything to do with our presence there. At this writing, the U.S. military has occupied four permanent bases in Iraq, and about 10 others are under development. The U.S. did not go into Iraq in order to spread democracy, we went there to permanently occupy and dominate the region by military force. I would strongly encourage you to get a grip on reality by reading "The Sorrows of Empire" by Chalmers Johnson: tinyurl.com Your understanding of the actual goals of the U.S. corporatocracy in the Middle East are woefully naive.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (221235)	3/1/2005 3:04:41 AM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 1573219

Not sure why you are posting to me. I have pointed out numerous times that your ability to summarize other poster's viewpoints is very poor. I was posting to you because you included me (or at least your understanding of my view) in one of your typically inaccurate renditions of other poster's views. The recommendation was that you should stick to posting your own personal views on topics, and stop trying to tell others what they are thinking about things, because you generally get the latter part wrong.... If you agree that Bush's actions have set the dominos in motion, then we are agreed. If you think we are failing in the Middle East, then you are ignoring the evidence. I think the results of the work in progress in the ME is much improved over last year, and still has a long way to go. but these are definitely interesting times!