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To: Elroy who wrote (221249)	3/1/2005 3:23:50 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573006

Re: The fundamentalist Islam threat to the US was embodied in Al Qaeda, Everyone should understand that "al Qaeda" is a fiction. It is a term that was created by the creative geniuses in U.S. public relatons firms who needed a handy buzzword to describe a really loose and incoherent bunch of individuals who all hate American arrogance and military meddling and who all loosely fall into the category of Muslim fundamentalists. "Al Qaeda"(sic) is an ugly spawn of about $5 Billion that the U.S. CIA invested in the mujahideen campaign against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Yes, al Qaeda was invented by the U.S. CIA. That should be stamped on the forehead of every damn neo-con in the country as their "badge of discourage". I.e. any attempt to discourage meddlesome and grotesque Zionists like Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Michael Ledeen, Doug Feith and their ilk should be fully resisted by honest and decent Americans. There is no place in our society for these frauds who would lay down their lives for Greater Israel as they willfully bankrupt America. It's good to keep an open mind and understand what Richard Clarke meant when he penned his book about defending America "Against All Enemies" foreign and domestic..... tinyurl.com

To: Elroy who wrote (221249)	3/1/2005 1:48:42 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573006

Look, Elroy, I shouldn't have to spell this out for you. When you have an entire region of people who are forcefed hate propaganda about the U.S. for decades, of course, they are going to grow up hating the U.S. and eventually that will turn into direct action against Americans, as we saw on 9/11. Think about it. For generations, Americans were brought up to believe that black people were intellectually inferior and were nothing more than animals. So Americans, in their ignorance, treated black people as nothing more than animals. It took a big war and several generations more to re-educate Americans to the reality that all races of people are equal in nature and that enslavement of one by another is evil. By the same token, Arabs are growing up being taught that Americans are the great Satan and that we are nothing more than stooges for the Jews who rule the world. And the Jews drink the blood of Palestinian children and harvest Palestinian body parts. Arabs are taught that Jews are the offspring of apes and pigs. Regularly, at the madrassahs and mosques, the Muslim clerics incite their congregations to hatred of the U.S. and Israel. These happy weekly affairs usually end in chants of "Death to America". So you think that this state of affairs doesn't represent a boiling cauldron of hate? I see Osama as an offspring of this boiling cauldron. Osama is a SYMPTOM. He just happens to be a particularly bright and charismatic symptom who harnessed the hatred and employed it as a weapon against the U.S. So what did those countries that you listed do? They created the atmosphere and culture of hate that exists in the Middle East today. They used hatred of the West as a safety valve to deflect the growing discontentment of their people, who lack freedoms and a chance at a decent life and a chance to choose their own leaders. That's what they did. If you can't see that, then you are clearly in Raymond's category of Americans who don't really know what is going on in the Middle East.

To: Elroy who wrote (221249)	3/1/2005 2:39:54 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573006

I am a believer that the status quo in the Middle East was no longer acceptable. It had boiled over and burned the U.S. badly. This is, of course, nonsense. The fundamentalist Islam threat to the US was embodied in Al Qaeda, an organization banned in the ME who's leader had been exiled to Afghanistan. As for "burning the US badly", which ME country - Saudi, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Qatar or Yemen, burned the US badly between 1992 and 2001? What exactly did these ME countries do to give you the impression you hold???? You don't seem to understand that for many Americans, accepting that the ME has attacked the US is absolutely essential in condoning what we are doing in the ME. Pointing out that OBL has been banned from the ME and that none of the nations states of the ME were behind 9/11 only confuses them. ted