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To: philv who wrote (22472)3/1/2005 1:36:22 PM
From: sea_urchin  Respond to of 81019
 
Phil > I wonder how many Iraqi's died.

These are the best figures I could find:

moreorless.au.com

>>No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 to as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliable figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shi'ite Muslims killed during Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 100,000. (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 suggest that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shi'ites and dissidents killed could be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because of international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War. <<

fair.org

>>Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's quote, calmly asserting that U.S. policy objectives were worth the sacrifice of half a million Arab children, has been much quoted in the Arabic press. It's also been cited in the United States in alternative commentary on the September 11 attacks <<

free.freespeech.org

>>Even the name “Gulf War” is a lie. The so-called Gulf “War” of 1991 was in fact a one-sided American/British state terror campaign, directed primarily against the entire Iraqi civilian population and infrastructure. 17.7 million pounds of bombs were dropped on the people of Iraq in the most concentrated aerial bombardment in the history of the world. In the 110,000 sorties of the six-week onslaught the cowardly American and British pilots (and to a lesser extent French and Saudi pilots) mass-murdered at least 200,000 people, using depleted uranium missiles, napalm, cluster-bombs, fuel-air bombs, cruise missiles and other so-called “smart bombs”.

Afterwards, wherever the depleted uranium firing had been concentrated, there were cancer epidemics among Iraqi civilians living nearby. In the years since then, the sanctions, polluted water and depleted uranium together have killed somewhere between 1,000,000 and 2,000,000 Iraqi civilian people. At least 600,000 of the dead are children under five years-old. Cancer rates have quadrupled in areas of southern Iraq bombed by the American and British state terrorists. <<

In the recent invasion, to my knowledge, the only figures were published in the Lancet and are based on overall population birth and death statistics.

abc.net.au

>>Iraqi civilian deaths put at 100,000

Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been killed in violence since the US-led invasion last year, according to public health experts who estimate there were 100,000 "excess deaths" in 18 months.

The US-based researchers found that the risk of death from violence in the period after the invasion was 58 times higher than before the war.

The rise in the death rate was mainly due to violence and much of it was caused by US air strikes on towns and cities, they said.

"Making conservative assumptions, we think that about 100,000 excess deaths or more have happened since the 2003 invasion of Iraq," said Les Roberts of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in a report published online by The Lancet medical journal.<<



To: philv who wrote (22472)3/1/2005 1:47:58 PM
From: sea_urchin  Respond to of 81019
 
Phil > one of your favorites is getting a promotion. He has a solid reputation as a builder of nations.

Makes me want to puke. I had better not say any more -----------



To: philv who wrote (22472)3/5/2005 3:14:17 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81019
 
Phil > one of your favorites is getting a promotion. He has a solid reputation as a builder of nations. (2)

Here's a more complete list of his attributes:

ips-dc.org

>>Top 10 Reasons Why Paul Wolfowitz Would Make a Good World Bank President

By John Cavanagh

He would follow in the great tradition of World Bank president Robert McNamara, who also helped kill tens of thousands of people in a poor country most Americans couldn’t find on a map before getting the job.

It helps to be a good liar when you run an institution with employees who earn over $100,000 a year to pretend to help billions of people who live on less than $1 a day.

With all his experience helping U.S. companies grab Iraq ’s oil profits, he's got just the right experience for doling out lucrative World Bank contracts to U.S. businesses.

After predecessor James Wolfensohn blew millions of dollars on "consultations" with citizen groups to give the appearance of openness, Wolfowitz's tough-guy style is just what’s needed to rid the World Bank of those irritating activists.

Unlike former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, another one of the four leading candidates, at least Wolfowitz hasn't failed at running a Fortune 500 company.

Unlike the Treasury Department’s John Taylor, another leading candidate, at least Wolfowitz doesn't want to get rid of the institution he would head.

While earning a University of Chicago Ph.D. , he was exposed to the tenets of market fundamentalism that have reigned at the World Bank for decades.

He has experience in constructing echo chambers where only the advice he wants to hear is spoken.

He knows some efficient private contractors who build echo chambers for only a few hundred billion dollars (cost plus, of course).

He can develop a pre-emptive poverty doctrine where the World Bank could invade countries that fail to make themselves safe for U.S. business, modeled on the U.S. pre-emptive war doctrine he helped craft. <<