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To: LindyBill who wrote (102936)	3/2/2005 2:01:14 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794197

res-You have to look at Hillary without our baggage, Michael. I guess that hits the nail of our disagreement right on the head as they say. I just don't see how you can go through a Presidential campaign and leave the baggage aside when your name is "Clinton". Don't believe it will happen Bill. 3 years out, 2 years out, maybe even 1 year out, sure the media can talk all about Hillary and her movement to the center and this and that, but 6 months before the election, or during the primaries the baggage "will" come forth. It's part of the process. All the Clinton baggage will come back to haunt her, because she was linked so closely with it. We'll just have to see I guess...

To: LindyBill who wrote (102936)	3/2/2005 2:31:54 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 794197

UPDATE: Wow. From left-of-center blogger Matt Yglesias: TKS I don't think that's a reason not to hope for the emergence of real democracy in Lebanon, but it's a bit of a sticky situation. More to the point, there simply doesn't seem to me to be any major geopolitical windfall we could possibly reap from any outcomes in Lebanon. It's a country that's very important to Syrian interests, pretty important to Israeli interests, and not really important at all to the United States. It just happens to be kinda-sorta near the strategically important Persian Gulf region. But nothing really bad has happened to us thanks to Syrian control, and nothing really good will happen to us if it ends. I try not to relentlessly mock those of the left of me (stop laughing), but on something like this, I cannot help but gasp at the breathtaking hard-heartedness and limited vision to conclude nothing good happens to the U.S. if Syria is forced out of Lebanon. For starters, try talking to some Lebanese. Every one I've talked to here in the U.S. wants the Syrians out. Do Americans benefit from happy Lebanese? Well, yeah. Happy people don't become anti-American terrorists. Two, am I the only one who gets a warm, gleeful feeling at the thought of Bashar Assad having to give up his prized colony? At the thought of a two-bit dictator having to fold in the face of a fed-up, multi-religious, liberty-demanding people? At the thought of the Lebanese getting a chance to rebuild Beirut as the Paris of the Middle East, without some ham-handed, greedy, meddling dictator using their country as economic Viagra? We're Americans. We're supposed to enjoy watching dictators get knocked around by the people, instead of the other way around.