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To: Elroy who wrote (221447)3/2/2005 8:47:37 AM
From: SilentZ  Respond to of 1573812
 
>Elections in Iraq.

Definitely a positive, but it took lots of of work to make it happen and there's no guarantee it's going to happen again, nor that it'll stop the bombings.

>Syria potentially removing its troops from Lebanon.
>An unpopular leader resigning in Lebanon in response to the population's request.

I'd argue this had more to do with Syria being stupid enough to kill Hariri than anything we did.

>Elections in the occupied Palestinian territories.
>A cease fire in the intifada.

Arafat's death.

I'd say that Egypt's upcoming multiparty elections and the local elections in SA are due largely to our actions, but I'm not sure they're really consequential.

-Z



To: Elroy who wrote (221447)3/2/2005 9:28:29 AM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573812
 
re:

Elections in Iraq. Should be singular. I suppose it's a slight positive in a sea of negatives. The bottom line in Iraq won't be know for at least a generation. There are dozens of potential outcomes, a few of which are good for the US. In the meantime our soldiers are killing and dying and we are tacking $2Billion per day onto our already bloated debt.

Syria potentially removing its troops from Lebanon. Potentially... and do you know what replaces this vacuum? Hezbollah, perhaps? Why do you assume a good outcome?

An unpopular leader resigning in Lebanon in response to the population's request. Same question and answer.

Elections in the occupied Palestinian territories. A good thing... but we were talking about our Iraq policy.

A cease fire in the intifada. A good thing... but we were talking about our Iraq policy.

re: None of these are worth talking about because some fanatics are blowing themselves up in Iraq police recruiting centers??

Did you not read my post about Iraq, or do you not want to respond to what I said?

John



To: Elroy who wrote (221447)3/2/2005 6:38:06 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573812
 
It could be argued that what we are seeing right now in Iraq is a mini-Civil War. Iraqi faction against Iraqi faction. What's keeping it "mini" is the US occupation. What would be happening between the factions if we were not there, to lend military support to one faction over the others?

Which begs the question, how can we ever leave?

John