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To: RetiredNow who wrote (221453)	3/2/2005 9:03:24 AM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 1573097

But unlike you, I don't get all gushy defending the poor Palestinian victims. Show me where I get gushy defending the poor Palestinian victims..... So the real story that you fail to recognize is that there are extremists on both sides that will stop at nothing to stop the peace process. Why do you say I fail to recognize that there are extremists on both sides? I recognize that. So when will you start being unbiased and recognize both sides are equally at fault? As I've posted before, I don't agree with that conclusion. Just because both sides have done things which perpetuate the conflict does not mean that they are equally responsible for the way things turned out. Both sides have some portion of blame for the current situation, but Israel's is larger for the two reasons I've listed numerous times. The first is that as the victor in a war it is your responsibility to rebuild your enemy in a shape that is acceptable to you and to them (as the US did in Germany and Japan in WW2 and are doing now in Iraq). Israel failed to do this. The second reason why I think Israel is more to blame for not resolving the current conflict is simply that they are more capable than the Palestinians, and with capability and power comes responsibility. Why then are you so biased towards the Palestinians? Are you just plain anti-semitic? Or are you ignorant of history? I explain why above, and have said the same thing numerous times on this chat board. As for being anti-Semitic, the above explanation of my view has nothing to do with ethnicity or religion, so no. And at the end of the day it really doesn't matter whether anybody thinks one side has greater responsibility than the other, they've gotta resolve it themselves.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (221453)	3/2/2005 12:30:33 PM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 1573097

Greenspan comments on Social Security. Looks like all the smart people in this country have realized that pay as you go for social security won't work going forward. The only question is when will the liberals on this thread realize this? --------------- yahoo.reuters.com Greenspan-lack of workers hurts US Social Security Wed Mar 2, 2005 12:01 PM ET WASHINGTON, March 2 (Reuters) - U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said on Wednesday the current pay-as-you-go U.S. Social Security system would not work if the ratio of workers to retirees fell below two-to-one. "We cannot have a pay-as-you-go system, when the demographics that confront us lead us eventually to a position when there will be fewer than two workers per retiree," Greenspan told the U.S. House of Representatives Budget Committee. "It just will not work. In 1935 and for the next 50 years it worked exceptionally well because you had a population growing at a sufficiently rapid pace." But "the arithmetic no longer works for pay-as-you-go and what you need is a system which creates the savings that are invested in real assets to produce the real consumption in retirement." Greenspan said earlier that, currently, 3-1/4 workers contribute to the social security system for each beneficiary and that will fall to 2 by 2030 under current assumptions.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (221453)	3/2/2005 2:00:21 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573097

But unlike you, I don't get all gushy defending the poor Palestinian victims. The Palestinians have been waging a terror campaign for decades, killing innocents and making peace impossible. Even now, they continue to launch suicide bombers against Israel, despite the best chance in history for peace with Israel. I agree with most everything you say in your post; however, I really question whether the Tel Aviv bombing was done by Palestinians. I think it was a set up just as I think the Beirut assassination was a set up. Things are so mucked up there that anything is possible. ted