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To: sea_urchin who wrote (22487)	3/3/2005 3:39:52 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81137

Re: ...an external explosion on its own could not have inflicted the damage that was seen (even though you don't believe it), then one must consider that the "government" was both complicit in the crime and involved in its cover-up. That's ridiculous... Although I'm always willing to entertain conspiracy theories, I'm not gonna fall for the far-right theory that the OKC bombing was a cointelpro scheme devised by "the US government" merely to give the far-right underground a bad name.... Indeed, EVEN IF other bombs were planted in the Murrah building --which didn't collapse after the explosion, did you notice?-- in addition to the truck-bomb driven by McVeigh, SO WHAT? You seem to imply that the Murrah building was among the most sensitive, hence the most guarded, facilities in the US... But, as I pointed out, Oklahoma City is a remote tank town that, prior to 1995, never made it to the FBI watchlist. The Murrah building was no Fort Knox! Nor was it a Federal Reserve subsidiary... It wasn't a DEA office, hence a target for the drug cartels. All that means that security and surveillance of the Murrah building was slapdash. Therefore, the terrorists didn't need the complicity of high-ranking officials to hatch the bombing of a low-key federal facility nobody ever heard of, cared about, still less worried about! And that's why McVeigh, Nichols and their accomplices targeted it in the first place: they knew that nobody would bother about a nondescript truck parked in front of the Murrah building. Gus

To: sea_urchin who wrote (22487)	3/3/2005 4:08:28 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 81137

Re: ...the policy of the Clinton administration was to discredit the right-wing extremists and... A rather dubious claim. Clinton didn't need a "policy" to discredit the right-wing extremists --the latter being to themselves their worst spoilers... US public opinion was already well aware of the far-right freaks' violence and hate crimes against abortion clinics, ethnic minorities, gay bars, federal symbols (be it officers or facilities), liberal journalists, you name it. Suffice it to skim through the following website: splcenter.org Besides, there's one important piece missing in your conspiracy theory that OKC was a government job: the harsh, wholesale, coast-to-coast repression by the Clinton administration following its alleged provocation. As I pointed out on another thread (several months/years ago), there were no dragnets in the Deep South, no Evangelical churches were closed down as potential terrorist lairs... A few militias got out of business, to be sure, yet, as reported by the SPLC, a few months after OKC, the militia underground was back on a roll! What OKC brought about was merely a consolidation stage --smaller militias merging together... Hate crimes against angry-white-men didn't surge --compare that to the rising wave of violence against Muslim and Middle-eastern-looking individuals after 911. In short, Clinton, unlike GW Bush, didn't call for a full-scale crusade against domestic terrorists --and wisely so...LOL! Gus