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To: Elroy who wrote (221697)3/3/2005 9:32:07 AM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573857
 
re: In order to fight a protracted, multi year WAR, you definitely need those things I listed (bases, weaponry, training camps, and especially funds). Without them, you are never going to get the "insurgents" to be anything more than a minority terrorist fringe group.

Well, we know they have weapons, they seem pretty well trained, and there are reports they have a lot of funds. Bases? Are they still in control of parts of the country?

re: 10,000 Sunni crazies out of an Iraqi population of ~22 million (with ~7 million non-crazy Sunnis) aren't fighting a war in any normal sense of the word. They are essentially exploiting the anarchy left over from the power vaccuum.

Those 10,000 are the fighters, not necessarily those that support them, and support Sunni power. Do most Sunni see themselves as Iraqi first and Sunni second; I don't know. They didn't vote in large numbers. And they will be struggling to get back their power.

re: Personally, think the country would be better if split into three regions

Probably, but is that going to happen peacefully? Remember the resources and the outside influences.

Anyway, this discussion started over the question, "are things getting better in Iraq?". My point is that at best we don't know. The country is a chaotic mess of conflicting interests competing for valuable resources; a country without infrastructure, huge unemployment, multiple daily terrorist-like attacks, and with a fledgling political and legal system that is looking more like it's evolving towards an Iranian system than anything else. If the end game is Iran and Iraq as allies with similar governments, well, that's not exactly what the Bush neocons envisioned. (Or what the American people paid and are paying dearly for). Or there is the real possibility of escalating civil war, or even wars involving Syria or Iran.

re: I find it hard to believe the Sunni insurgency can continue to fond suicide losers for years to come.

Palestine?

John



To: Elroy who wrote (221697)3/3/2005 9:42:31 AM
From: Road Walker  Respond to of 1573857
 
U.S. Troops Deaths in Iraq Top 1,500

18 minutes ago Middle East - AP


By TODD PITMAN, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq (news - web sites) has topped 1,500, an Associated Press count showed Thursday after the military announced the deaths of three Americans, while car bombs targeting Iraqi security forces killed at least four people in separate attacks.