To: SilentZ who wrote (221844 ) 3/3/2005 9:35:19 PM From: Raymond Duray Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571973 Z, Re: no news source said that the Israelis in question were Mossad agents. You really must read more. Here's your articles:ww1.sundayherald.com tinyurl.com Recently, it was announced on Democracy NOW! that these five Israelis were detained for four months at a detention center in Brooklyn: democracynow.org <COPY> AMY GOODMAN: Now, we are not only talking about Arab Muslims who have been the hardest hit in this country after 9/11 in this MDC detention, as Nancy mentioned also, a man from India and you report on Israeli Jews who were arrested as well. LARRY COHLER-ESSES: Five Israeli Jews were among those sort of swept off the streets in the frantic mania after 9/11. They had been working for a moving company without a work visa out in New Jersey. Somebody had seen "individuals of Middle Eastern appearance" standing on the roof of this New Jersey moving company with a view of the World Trade Center. They saw the attack. They got their video cameras out. They thought that they were in the presence of something amazing, terrible, and they filmed it. Whoever saw this reported to the police that they seemed to be very excited and very enthusiastic. Later in the day after this report came in, they were stopped by while in a van on the New Jersey Turnpike. Just to give you an idea of how logical the process of sorting out these prisoners were, they were considered prisoners of high interest, the most suspicious prisoners, and put into maximum security detention at the Metropolitan Detention Center. AMY GOODMAN: For how long? LARRY COHLER-ESSES: They were there for, I think, four months. During that time, they underwent torture and abuse, just like all the others. <END COPY> *** Re: Because the government doesn't need to answer all of YOUR questions. I think you misunderstand the nature of liberty and tyranny. Please recall the words of Thomas Jefferson: "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." So, you are flat f___ing wrong, the government MUST answer all my/our/the people's questions. And I would encourage you to think of them as your questions as well. Not all of them are blatantly silly. <wink>