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To: trouthead who wrote (58735)	3/4/2005 1:22:01 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 81568

JB. Another name caller are you? You said...."You are a fool if you think it's because of Islam. It's power. They want to stay in control. Not because of religion. Money, power, control."..... The question was what is it that limits freedoms in Saudi Arabia. It is not money, But it is control of society by means of islamic laws. Look at other islam controlled countries around the Middle East...do you see any other countries there and elsewhere where freedoms of speech, freedom of religions, freedom to vote, etc. that we here in the West enjoy? There are many filthy rich people in democratic societies...loads of money but they do NOT control the citizens of the countries they live in. Why? If your answer is NO muslim countries do not have these freedoms that make them free societies then what is the reason...what do they all have in common.. ISLAM. Wake up. People are put to death in islam controlled societies for daring to say anything against islam and it is islam mullahs and clerics that control the countries. Not money...islam laws control the people. You said...."They want to stay in control. Not because of religion."..... I don't recall anyone saying those in control in Saudi Arabia want to stay in control because of religion. Why in the world you even think that? I say the way they stay in control is because of islamic laws and rules that control the citizens of that country....Why in hell do you suppose free voting is not allowed in Saudi Arabia? Maybe you can explain what you get out of calling others names like so many others like you do.? You said...."Are you daft?"..... You may want to ask yourself this question...how can you miss what is so very obvious?

To: trouthead who wrote (58735)	3/4/2005 1:51:50 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

jb. You said...."You are a fool if you think it's because of Islam. It's power. They want to stay in control. Not because of religion. Money, power, control. Are you daft?"..... Like I said you might want to ask yourself that question. :-) Saudi Arabia Constitutional Background oefre.unibe.ch Constitutional reforms - after having been promised since the era of King Feisal - were implemented by King Fahd in 1992. The resulting Constitutional Government is radically different from Western style social order. Article 1 of the Basic Law of Government stipulates that "God's Book and the Sunnah" are the substantive constitution of Saudi Arabia, being only amended (not changed) by reforms of state organization. Saudi Arabian monarchy is religion bound. Furthermore, the new Consultative Council (Shura Council, Majlis al-Shura) is subject to nomination and re-nomation by the king, not to election by the people. Speeches in the 11,000 mosques are pre-censored by administrative officials, women are not allowed to acquire driving licenses. In 1995, more than 150 delinquents were put to death by being publicly beheaded with a sword; thiefs are punished by cutting off their hand. Islamists openly challenge the Saud dynasty with its 6000 Princes for decadent and corrupt lifestyle. The King submits two of the five secret services directly to his command. Possible successors of the very sick monarch are the Princes Naif, Sultan, and Bandar. An option for a non-dynastic government could be Ahmed Saki el-Jamani, a former oil minister now businessman in London. The seemingly absolute power of Arabian monarchy has slightly been smoothed by the Islamic rule to take decisions by consultation. The firm belief that greater wisdom, longer experience, and higher knowledge are more likely to lead to the correct decision is an ancient force behind the Consultative Council. However, the constitutional reforms are not likely to concede to any of the western demands for women's rights and free speech. Parties There are no opposition parties in Saudi Arabia. The Committee for the Defence of Legitimate Rights under the professor of physics Muhammad Massari is a militant Islamist Saudi opposition, currently operating from London. Massari is now (Feb 1996) under pressure of the British Government to leave for the Caribbeans. His movement is well-funded by rich members of the clandestine opposition. Another opposition movement is being funded by Ussama Ibn Ladin (Osama bin Laden) and operates from Sudan and Afghanistan.