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To: Ish who wrote (97042)	3/4/2005 2:02:45 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

The only answer to feed the growing world population is genetically modified crops. I wonder how much a loaf of bread would cost from an organically grown field harvested with horse drawn equipment? Better yet why don't we just abandon all methods of farming and go back to digging for roots and berries. "[O]bserve that in all the propaganda of the ecologists—amidst all their appeals to nature and pleas for "harmony with nature"—there is no discussion of man's needs and the requirements of his survival. Man is treated as if he were an unnatural phenomenon. Man cannot survive in the kind of state of nature that the ecologists envision—i.e., on the level of sea urchins or polar bears. . . . In order to survive, man has to discover and produce everything he needs, which means that he has to alter his background and adapt it to his needs. Nature has not equipped him for adapting himself to his background in the manner of animals. From the most primitive cultures to the most advanced civilizations, man has had to manufacture things; his well-being depends on his success at production. The lowest human tribe cannot survive without that alleged source of pollution: fire. It is not merely symbolic that fire was the property of the gods which Prometheus brought to man. The ecologists are the new vultures swarming to extinguish that fire." [Ayn Rand (1971), "The Anti-Industrial Revolution," Return of the Primitive, 277.]

To: Ish who wrote (97042)	3/4/2005 2:25:40 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

What you said is a total myth. First of all, NO ONE need to eat meat or drink milk. Both of these food groups are really bad for human health. They waste the land, pollute our waterways and kill Americans because consumption of them creates bad health. Fifty percent of Americans die of heart disease, a disease almost unknown in plant-eating societies. All of the people on earth, including the ones who are starving now, could eat and thrive if the grain fed to farm animals went directly to human food. And the price of meat and dairy products are artificially low because these animals are fed slop--chicken feces, dead chickens, animal blood, all sorts of things consumers have no idea they are eating when they consume dead animals. And because the animals are so crowded that they would all die unless they were pumped full of antibiotics, consumers are eating medicines also. Oh, and don't forget all the pus you drink when you drink milk! I really don't think most people have any idea at all the way the milk and meat products they eat are produced. I don't think they would eat them if they did.