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To: tejek who wrote (222054)	3/4/2005 9:37:25 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573123

They chose it after decades of the Shah's corruption and cronism. CIA supported years of Shah's corruption and cronism....and repression. Al

To: tejek who wrote (222054)	3/4/2005 10:06:53 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573123

I'll quote from your own post... "Although peace with Iraq was finally restored in 1988, inner turmoil continued as a debate simmered within Iran between the “reformers,” seeking to relax the clergy’s control over day-to-day government, and the “hard-liners,” seeking to preserve that control while resisting “outside” – primarily western – ideas. These debates often erupted into street demonstrations and even violence." Proves my point. Iranians may have been fooled into thinking they wanted a theocracy, especially when a theocracy seemed like a good alternative to the Shah. But now, it is abundantly clear Iranians want to be free. They want to be rid of the theocracy and have a real democracy. But they don't have a choice in the matter, because the mad mullahs won't relinquish their power.

To: tejek who wrote (222054)	3/4/2005 11:03:59 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573123

tejek and John, check this article out. I thought it was a good one in that it discusses how we should be for the process that leads to democracy despite what the outcome might be. He goes on to say that the cold war mentality was focused on the outcome (a regime friendly to the U.S.) moreso than the process. That mentality lead to U.S. propping up tyrants and despots. So Bush's new thinking is a very big break from the cold war mentality. Bush is putting process, democratic process to be specific, above the outcome. And I believe that is exactly what we should be doing. Let freedom and democracy prevail and I am sure that in the long run, America will benefit handsomely. Prop up dictators and tyrants and I can guarantee we're in for quite a few more 9/11s. ------------ Are We Serious About Arab Democracy? time.com