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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (97186)3/7/2005 2:00:29 AM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
It would take me too long tonight to explain why I think Bush is evil. I might try giving it a go tomorrow, though.

I didn't understand this statement. Could you explain it in other words?:

"We already know that if Bush is a moron Democrats must be retarded."

The question of anti-Semitism in Ireland during World War II is complicated. The Catholics didn't like the Jews, the people were for the most part provincial and racist, and the IRA seems to have been somewhat involved with the Nazis simply because Germany was fighting the Brits.

Do you remember when the Pope apologized for anti-Semitism during World War II? It was rampant in Ireland, a Catholic country. I could probably find a copy of the text, if you don't.

When the Irish Holocaust Memorial was opened a couple of years ago, the speaker also apologized for Irish anti-Semitism in World War II. I could probably also find that if you do not recall it, but not tonight--I need to go to bed now.

There was a good series I read about Irish anti-Semitism in World War II in the Irish Times some years ago, but now they do not offer free access. So I am stuck with other sources. Here is one to start with re the IRA. I think you might possibly be interested in some of the books at this site--they seemed interesting to me.

This is from a book review about an IRA guy:

In Green and Red: The Lives of Frank Ryan by Adrian Hoar

Hardback; 25.00 Euro / 30.00 USD / 18.00 UK 300 pages [Add To Basket]

Socialist And republican Frank Ryan is best remembered for his leadership of Irishmen in the Spanish Civil War and his collusion with Nazi Germany against Britain. But his earlier life is equally revealing of the man and his times, thanks to his highly active role in both political agitation and the ideological debates that divided Ireland and shaped Europe between the wars. Born in County Limerick in 1902, he joined the Irish Republican Army (IRA) at the age of sixteen during the War of Independence and fought against the Treaty in 1922 until he was wounded and interned. He became a prominent member of the republican left, a fiery and inspirational orator, and editor of Art Phoblacht. A founder member of the Republican Congress, Ryan, a committed socialist, was a leading opponent of Eoin O'Duffy and the Blue Shirts. On the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War he led the first contingent of Irish volunteers to support the Popular Front government. A brave and inspirational leader, he served with Italian and German Republican divisions, as well as with the Irish and Americans. He was badly wounded at Jarama in February 1937 and returned to Ireland to recuperate. On his return to Spain he was appointed adjutant to General Jose Miaja. He was captured during the Aragon offensive on 1 April 1938 and was held at the Miranda del Ebro detention camp. He was sentenced to death but after representations from Eamon de Valera his sentence was commuted to thirty years. In August 1940 Ryan was transferred to Nazi Germany, where he was reunited with IRA maverick Sean Russell. The two were sent to Ireland in a U-boat, but Russell died on the journey and Ryan returned to Germany where, as unofficial IRA ambassador, he acted in an advisory capacity for German intelligence. He died in a sanatorium near Dresden in July 1944.

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