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To: Elroy who wrote (222578)3/7/2005 3:02:49 PM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572689
 
The "ruling family" in Saudi Arabia comprises something like .1% of the total Saudi population. I don't know the number, but lets say they take 80% of the country's oil revenues for themselves. Lets say the average Saudi doesn't want the rules that limit female driving, minority rights, alcohol consumption or even extreme religious teaching in schools, but the "royal family" doesn't care what the average Saudi wants, they just keep a disproportionate share of the resources and throw any protesters in jail for ten years.

In this theoretical scenario (which is not that far off from reality) why are you opposed to outside countries eliminating the current royal family ruling structure, and giving the average Saudi a first opportunity to share equally in the country's wealth and set societal rules which are agreed upon by the majority of the citizens rather than a small, exploitative elite?

In you own life, if you see something absolutely wrong, but it is not harming you directly, surely you make some effort to correct it, don't you?



To: Elroy who wrote (222578)3/7/2005 3:24:56 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572689
 
If one country is not threatening its neighbors and only affecting the citizens inside its borders, do you EVER feel an outside invasion followed by a forcible regime change is warranted, and if so when?

No, I don't

Why?

Why is it OK for 20% of the country's population to terrorize, oppress, rape, exploit and enslave the remaining 80% as long as they stay inside the country's borders, but it's not OK for the US to kill the 20% that's doing the oppressing and let the remaining 80% start from scratch?


Who died and made you God? Who are you to determine the future of others? Who makes you so superior that you know what's best? You are sounding more and more out there.

In other words, why is it OK for citizens of a given country to abuse and kill their fellow citizens, but not OK for the US to abuse and kill the abusers?

Because the US does not always show good judgement in these matters. We are not saints. And we have a lot of work to do here.

ted



To: Elroy who wrote (222578)3/7/2005 4:22:15 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572689
 
"why is it OK for citizens of a given country to abuse and kill their fellow citizens, but not OK for the US to abuse and kill the abusers?"

Because there is the concept of "sovereignty". It is such that for the US or any other country to violate it requires extraordinary circumstances. In addition, it is probably a smart thing to line up as many countries as possible when it needs to be done to keep from being branded a "rogue" country.