To: Elroy who wrote (222791 ) 3/8/2005 4:51:50 AM From: tejek Respond to of 1572935 You're ignoring the fundamental questions, Ted, that come from your conclusion that a nation should never use force against another nation unless the first nation is directly threatened by the second. Why should an individual use force to help another individual if she is being raped, but a nation should not use force to help the citizens of another nation if they are being raped? As a good citizen, in some instances, going to the aid of a fellow citizen is seen as a positive. A nation going into another nation is usually seen as an invasion.......a negative. Why do you think that respecting "international law" (whatever that is) un.org and respecting "sovereignity of nations" are more important than fighting for the rights of oppressed people to be free from persecution at the hands of people more powerful than them just because the oppressors happen to be citizens of the same country, and that country is not your country? Because its in a violation of international law and the sovereignty of nations. If a woman in your neighborhood tells you that her boyfriend beats her and then rapes her from time to time, and you go over to his house, break in, and kill him, what do you think the police will say about your 'good deed'?Why would you allow the ability of an elite 20% of a country's population to oppress 80% of the same country's population, rather than use US's ability to stop the elite 20% from their oppressive behavior? Dude, you are starting to OD on this subject. In most of the world, the top 20% oppress the bottom 80%. We would go broke by the 3rd or 4th invasion trying to free all the oppressed people in the world. Why do you think Mr. Bush is starting to rely on diplomacy? He has no real choice in the matter. ted